The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. Thanks all. 1 / 2. If the AO neck is anything like the AV '64, you'll be just fine, although the AV has a 7.25 radius. The sound is slightly higher output than what Ive heard of vintage reissue Tele pickups (though not as much as my G&L ASAT Classic) and very versatile. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same guitar model. 20 days ago. They also stated the Vintera series will ONLY be nitro in rare, special cases for limited runs. Please remember to like, share and subscribe. The Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster, on the other hand, has a V neck. We value and reply to every comment!Come and be our friends too!Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thelickloftInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/thelickloft/ #6. I found that the neck is slightly different - I always found the old Classic 60s to basically feel like the AVRI '62 Strat but they were typically fatter in depth; the Vintera is the same depth as the old Classic 60s but is more "oval"/fuller, kind of like the difference between an . If you want to support my channel, please follow the links below to listen to music. This is what's used for most music genres. Both guitars have a Vintage Tall fret size. Where as I try not to modify a guitar that was expensive, to start with. On the other hand, SSS is perfect for players who like to play clean. Really a workhorse. I compared the 2 remaining models on multiple occasions and locations over the next month. If you can afford it, buy the AO60s. Go. Both these guitars come with some of the top pickups on the market. Vinteras are Mexi build, and are more or a tribute to an era than detail accurate, and also take a few more liberties with different wiring choises. Playing into a Fender Tone Master Super Reverb and using a Keeley Red Dirt for my overdrive pedal. In keeping with the vintage vibe, the Vinteras are only available in finishes that were around at the time; personally, I love all the pastel finishes from the 50s Sonic Blue, Fiesta Red, Seafoam Green etc theyre all in there in the Vintera range. Not sure if it's possible to buy a 5 Watt Champ currently. this makes a lot of sense actually as it does seem the vintera simply says 50s or 70s etc while AVII specifies a year good catch. It's usually thick, which is why some people with big hands like it. Vintera Votes: 33 49.3% Performer Votes: 34 50.7% Total voters 67 1 2 3 4 Next Apr 17, 2020 #1 RhythmFender Tele-Holic Joined Apr 17, 2020 Posts 542 Location Minneapolis, Minnesota What's the best value here, all things considered? 2022 Reidys Home of Music. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. Apr 5, 2021 #21 I'm looking for a 50's style maple board Stratocaster. Thanks! A longer scale also means that the strings will have higher tension. You can listen via Spotify, download via Bandcamp, or visit my webpage and hit the tip jar! The action you just performed triggered the security solution. This makes both lacking in terms of versatility. This will help you get lower action without suffering fret buzz, which will also be helpful when playing in lower tunings without having to increase your string gauge. I suspect that if you check out the specs of the Vintera & compare them to the Performer, you'll have your answer. Bone is the best natural material for guitar nuts. This editing, mostly light EQ and compression, is intended to give you the most accurate representation of how the featured gear actually sounds. The radius of the fingerboard is a measure of how curved the neck of the guitar actually is when looking at it from bridge to nut. On the other hand, the Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster has the upper hand when it comes to playability, value for the money. It's a type of nut found in high-quality instruments. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both guitars in this comparison favor large hands . Thanks a ton, I've actually got some Pyramid flatwound 12s in the mail, hoping they're not gonna be too big. The necks on the 60s Vinteras are a little closer to that of the Player, but still a tad chunkier. Some people like it because they use their thumb over the edge of the fretboard to press the lower strings. Jun 30, 2018 20 From the land of the ice and snow. However, some bridges are more expensivelike Floyd Roses and Evertunesand thus add more value to a guitar. One key difference I noticed is the neck on the 60s is a lot more tapered than the 50s - not sure if it's noticeable as both look to have reasonably chunky necks. You have arrived at The Lick Loft! Theyve got player-friendly features, theyre available in quite a few different finishes (modern and classic), but theyre still quintessentially Fender. American Original 70's Tele Custom neck finish. Meteora Other Shop All Electric Guitars SHOP BY SERIES American Professional ll American Ultra American Ultra Luxe American Performer Player Plus Player JV Modified Vintera Noventa Made in Japan Limited Edition Artist Signature HIGHLIGHTS Introducing Slime Green & Metallic Plum Acoustasonic Back FEATURED Mod Shop - Design Your Own Guitar Tremolo bridges give you more versatility than fixed bridges. We plugged both the Vintera 50's Stratocaster and the Fender American Original 50's Stratocaster straight into a Fender Blues Junior. Shoul arrive early next week. However, some of them do have advantages over the others. I've been looking at getting a tele for while. I thought the vintera had single coil pickups, as does the American original? Getting hold of secondhand gear in the UK is nowhere as easy as it is in the US. Thread starter guitarface; Start date Jun 5, 2020; Prev. If you want a vintage style guitar, with all its old-school mojo, but with a bit of extra spice, then one of the Modified Vinteras could be for you. BUT, in the UK it is not possible to go to any store and try it and I'm pretty much tired of waiting as I'm wasting learning time (although I do have an acoustic I've been playing but it's not the same). The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build. I bet you will probably see the same qualitative superiority in the AVII. Fender American Original 50La Bella 760FS Flatwounds(foam muted)Fender Vintera Precision Bass 50La Bella 760FL Flatwounds(foam muted)Fender American Original. If you want to benefit from this improved service, please opt-in. A big one for me, is the difference in neck profiles- if my fretting hand isnt comfortable, then Im probably not going to get on with a guitar. Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivableif they're all well built. I like vintage pickups. The bridge pickup is set up as it was in 51, so it's a dark circuit that produces a really bassy tone. We have a new #FocusOnSound review video for you, and today's subject. I've been very impressed with the build quality of my Vintera, and I say that as somebody who cant stand poor craftsmanship, fret buzz, sharp fret ends, etc. The Vintera series on the other hand, is a direct throwback to the 50s, 60s and 70s. Let us know!Open song: Savannah Mourning - listen and download!https://jackfossett.bandcamp.com/track/savannah-mourning-2This was not a sponsored video.Thanks for watching! It's rather thicker than most modern necks, so it's not usually used for playing fast solos. I'm looking for a 50's style maple board Stratocaster. I have tried both; had the Vintera '60s Strat in for a couple of weeks to demo but ultimately returned it. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Fender American Professional II Stratocaster has a 9.5 radius. You'll feel that it's easier to play bar chords, although you might be more likely to mute strings accidentally when playing open chords. They are substantially richer in harmonic content and timbre to an astonishing degree; it's real black magic. Is that some kind of boutique make ? So for me it's versatility vs. having "that sound.". Both guitars have a Bolt-On neck joint. However, its tonal properties can be inconsistent. We'll always show you the best prices we find regardless of the compensation we receive. This means you get a really clear, dynamic and balanced sound not to mention vintage. Strat Talk is the leading online community and marketplace for Stratocaster guitars. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. That's one thing they did change from vintage spec on the AVII '51 Teles. This neck shape was more common during Fender's early years. Worth noting if you call them to order or purchase in store the price is a little lower than what's posted online. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. I'd like to buy the American original Strat but I actually like more the sound of the Vintera 50's Strat, in this video: Why dont you have an eye out for a used Classic Series 50s lacquer? The AV2s are models that are based on a specific year for a guitar and are accurate for that specific year whereas the vintera is a mixture of stuff from that decade I believe. SS is the classic Telecaster configuration. Just wanna be sure as I have an American original transferring to my guitar shop, and wanna be able to tell the difference in case they stiff me and sell me a Vintera, without me knowing. When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the guitar. Most I''d do for the vintera is maybe slap a couple of em. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I mostly use the 3 classic Tele sounds but have found the out-of-phase sounds useful when I want something different (or when I need a glassy almost-but-not-really-Strat tone). The Fender Player series represents 60-70 years worth of innovation theyre modern versions of the classic guitars, but they retain the character of what made them so iconic. What are the differences between these guitars? 5watt champ or a Swart will do the quiet tube amp thing very well. Fender Precision Bass Original 60 vs Vintera 50 sound comparison (2 min no talking) 4,953 views Dec 19, 2021 Same strings and sound processing on both instruments .more .more 95 Dislike. Both these guitars come with regular tuners. A Look At The Taylor Academy Series Guitars, The Ultimate Guide To Baby Taylor Guitars, Everything You Need to Know About Taylor Guitars. The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. Cheers. Fender Player vs Vintera: What Are The Differences? Watch on and find out - let me know what you think!Like what you see? Sombrero Top Strat-Talk Member. Aug 29, 2019 #4 dakink Aug 31, 2009 Milwaukee area JavaScript is disabled. Press J to jump to the feed. Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory: Let's now compare the playability of both guitars. All Rights Reserved. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. What was the old Mexican Standard became the Fender Player, and more recently, they discontinued the Classic Player, Baja and Road Worn models and released the Vintera series. That's the problem that synthetic bone fixes. everyone's recommending 11s. What are the differences between these guitars? Unfortunately, none of these guitars come with stainless steel frets. In this case, both guitars have a scale length of 25.5". I have both an American Original 50s (which also has Pure Vintage pickups) and a Vintera 50s. These are affiliate links. Each pickup has been carefully calibrated and voiced not only for the decade, but also for the guitar and pickup position. Are the pups shielded? No single neck shape is better than others. There was a lot of info available on the Fender forums before they were closed down. Fender Vintera '50s Telecaster Modified - Daphne Blue Sweetwater Sound $1749.99 Fender American Acoustasonic Telecaster - Matte Black Sweetwater Sound $2349.99 Fender Britt Daniel Telecaster Thinline - Amarillo Gold Sweetwater Sound $1799.99 Fender Joe Strummer Road Worn Telecaster Sweetwater Sound $2699.99 The guitar world in general, is pretty obsessed with vintage guitars, so for some players, they will be more desirable. If youre not too bothered about nailing a vintage sound, and you just want a good, general Strat tone with all of its chime, glassiness, and versatility, then you could find your match with the Player. Click to reveal This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. Of course pups can be replaced but the American Original is the first guitar Ive ever had where I cant imagine going anywhere near the pups and wiring. In regards to tone, both will sound like P basses but the Vintera is more vintage voiced compared to the Pro being more modern. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better. The Vintera is an awesome guitar and the neck is simply incredible its a baby-bear-just right chunky U shape. Vintera is 0.870 -> 0.975 "V" shape so the difference is not huge on paper certainly but probably noticeable at the nut end. Mexico has been for a long time where Fender has built their semi-premium series. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. 34. r/fender. This is a confusing name for a fret size because vintage frets are known for being short. The pickups were specially designed for the Fender Player series. I personally bought my Tele about a year ago and was in this same position and went for a brand new Japanese one. The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster is built in Mexico while the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster is made in United States. The words Fender, Telecaster, Stratocaster and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. However, since the bridge floats and there's less contact with the body, the strings lose sustain slightly faster. Thanks for the advice. The Fender Vintera 60s Stratocaster Modified is made in Mexico, has a solid alder body, a bolt-on Modern "C" maple neck, pau ferro fingerboard, and SSS pickups. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. Alder is the most popular wood that Fender uses in most of their guitars nowadays. is 9.5" fretboard radius, while the Vintera is 7.25" radius. thanks for that. More comfortable open chords for big hands, More comfortable at higher frets for small hands, More curved fretboard helpful to play chords without muting strings, Great if you like to hang your thumb over the fretboard, Beautiful cleans and good tone versatility, More comfortable open chords for small hands, More comfortable at higher frets for big hands, Simple vibratos without too much maintenance, Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend, Fender Vintage Style 50s Single-Coil Hot Tele, You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings, Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster, Copyright 2023 FindMyGuitar.com | All Rights Reserved. (Vintage Era). The Fender Vintera 60s Stratocaster is built with a 7.25 radius. I don't know if these are the same. Obviously a Tele pickup sounds different to a Strat pickup, but theyre all made using the same magnets and wiring. We found the same or similar pickups to the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster's online: Both guitars use Passive pickups. I'd slaughter my entire family for a AO60s. The AO feels great in the hand as the taper fills the hand as you move up the fretboard. American models pound for pound will always be better guitars. Of course, that comes at a price. The AVII 1951 and Vintera 50s should be very similar guitars in most respects. I believe that the Vintera you are looking at is the successor to the Baja, which wasn't my favorite and is now long gone. Performance & security by Cloudflare. The Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster wins when it comes to sound, build quality. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. The Vintera 'Modified' series will have the more modern features like a 9.5 fretboard radius, two point tremolo and modern switching options if you prefer that to vintage specs. If you got small hands, none of these guitars will make a big difference when it comes to comfortability. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. That's why you should always test a guitar before buying it. The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster has an SS configuration while the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster has SSS pickups. I traded both away. Here's the diagram comparing all the pickup combinations you can get with both guitars: When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more. They don't come with that dark circuit for the same reason the strat has the 5 way. Let's see how the Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster compares to the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster. For me the fretboard radius is a deal breaker but otherwise it looks very similar to the American Original I have. Off hand, and without much experience with the Vintera series, I'd go with the AO. I pulled the trigger on an AO60s! However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster. Even though they say it's because of its balanced tone with an emphasis in the upper midrange, it probably is because it isn't too expensive, and it's also pretty lightweightmore than Mahogany. However, this size usually means that the crown width is narrower than most modern frets, but the height is a bit taller than the usual vintage fret. If you don't want to overpay for a wellp-built instrument, a guitar built in this country by a good brand always offers good value for the money. Winner: Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster. The pickups in the Players are fantastic, but the amount of work that Tim Shaw has put into the Vintera pickups; from the research to the carefully chosen material that theyre made up of, mean that you get guitars that sound incredibly close to how they did in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Classic Vibe vs Vintera vs Original - a Vintage Strat Shootout! Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. I'll modify a less expensive guitar. Good question. But the Pure Vintage pickups in the American Original blow the Vintera pups out of the water. Make sure to Like, Share and Subscribe to keep in the loop!Australian American Original Buy Here - https://www.soundcentre.com.au/solid-body-guitars/7039-fender-american-original-60s-stratocaster-shell-pink.htmlAustralian Vintera Buy Here - https://www.soundcentre.com.au/solid-body-guitars/7011-fender-vintera-60s-stratocaster-ice-blue-metallic.htmlRecorded through the VOX MV50 AC and Softube TSAR-1R ReverbKeep in touch!Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/oliroyerguitInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/oliroyer/ The last few years have seen Fender revamp both their Mexican and American ranges of guitars and basses. Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster vs Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster, 3-Saddle Vintage-Style Strings-Through-Body Tele with Brass Barrel Saddles, Pure Vintage 6-Saddle Synchronized Tremolo, 1st Fret: 0.91'' (23.1mm) - 12th Fret: 0.98'' (24.9mm), 1st Fret: 0.9'' (22.9mm) - 12th Fret: 0.99'' (25.1mm), Fender Vintage Style 50s Single-Coil Hot Tele (Single Coil / Passive), Fender Pure Vintage 59 Single-Coil Strat (Single Coil / Passive), Bridge pickup: Fender Vintage Style 50s Single-Coil Hot Tele (Single Coil/Passive), Neck pickup: Fender Vintage Style 50s Single-Coil Hot Tele (Single Coil/Passive), 3-Saddle Vintage-Style Strings-Through-Body Tele with Brass Barrel Saddles bridge, From Fender's 2018 American Original series, Bridge pickup: Fender Pure Vintage 59 Single-Coil Strat (Single Coil/Passive), Middle pickup: Fender Pure Vintage 59 Single-Coil Strat (Single Coil/Passive), Neck pickup: Fender Pure Vintage 59 Single-Coil Strat (Single Coil/Passive), Pure Vintage 6-Saddle Synchronized Tremolo bridge, Pure Vintage Single Line Fender Deluxe tuners, Weight between 7.938lbs (3.6kgs) and 8lbs (3.6kgs). Both the Player and Vintera ranges are made in their Mexican factory, and they both consist of the classic Fender designs Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster, Jaguar, P-Bass and Jazz Bass, amongst a few others. Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can still use it for distortion, but you won't get the same kind of output and power compared to a humbucker, and the hum they produce also makes them less adequate for high gain. Not familiar with Swart. This is also referred to as ''baseball neck'' because of its shape. It doesn't give you as much versatility as a Strat SSS configuration, but you might like the cleaner look of a guitar body with fewer pickups. The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster's are Vintage-Style while the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster's are Pure Vintage Single Line Fender Deluxe. Most guitar fret wire is made of nickel silver. Road Worns have relic finishes and come with period-specific specs, now under the Vintera line. It replaced a 2008 Fender American Special and a 2009 US Strat. Whats for sure is that both of these ranges offer players great value for money, and theyre both built really well these things will last! This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone. Why dont you have an eye out for a used Classic Series 50s lacquer? Press J to jump to the feed. Youll notice as well that the 50s models have single-ply scratchplates, as they did back then its not a huge difference, but its a nice touch that adds to whole vintage aesthetic of these guitars. The lacquer-version comes with nitro finish and a case. Makes bending and chording up high more comfortable. I have owned both, ended up selling all of my play-grades, and keeping the AV and CS ones that I also enjoy playing. It's used mainly for playing clean or with low-gain distortion, and it's very popular for the country genre because of their brightness. Its one of my favourite guitars and a real workhorse. This is the scale used in most Stratocasters. The AVII's are built to the exact specs as they were made at the time - even down to the screws which were flat head on the tele as opposed to phillips screws (phillips screws didn't exist in 51). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. On the other hand, the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster comes with a Bone nut. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar is to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.