Word of the murders raced through the western border settlements and with it the fear of Indian retaliation. Interesting! I wonder if you know of a way to obtain a copy. His mother was Neanoma a Cayuga, and step-mother was Tutelo. SLIDESHOW: The 1886 Logan Family Massacre, Unraveling the 1886 Logan Family Massacre, A lifetime of memories at the old RHS gym, Remembering back when Maramec Spring Park was for sale, Dr. Tori Snitker named Principal of Rolla Junior High School, ROLLA CITY COUNCIL: Looking to stop illegal camping, RTIs Rolla Robotics FTC teams advance to state competition, Newburg woman facing charges in wake of fatal overdose, S&T research team develops method to test insensitive explosives, Rolla weather data at 7:30 a.m. Thursday, March 2, 2023, Missouri to observe Severe Weather Preparedness Week starting March 6, Missouri S&T Miner basketball players visit Greentree Learning Center. Among the dead were several members of Logan's . The day before the book was to be published, the author received a phone call from Stella Lawson, a relative who had already been interviewed for the book. Jacob Greathouse himself slaughtered Koonay and dissected her belly, removed her unborn son and scalped him. The family in this case is stunned. Is it possible he didn't/wasn't (and wasn't involved in the murders), but saw a vulnerable teen girl he could exploit to have a relationship with after he got to know her because of investigating the murders? Porcelain Dolls: The Stacy Moody Story, on YouTube, http://www.topix.com/forum/city/huntsville-oh/T4EKSRKBK1MEM12J7/p1. Myers's party did not have permission to be in Indian territory and crossed the Ohio at dusk to avoid detection. Nor the reason why he asked his eldest son, Arthur, to . Why did Stacy not call police in that time? She was by his side for 56 years and bore him ten childrensix sons and four daughters. The bodies of the Mingo victims were mutilated. The third, William, born in 1914, died of an illness in 1920. . Police have called the Gee family murders a "brutal homicide." After dealing with his fathers estate, he did return to the Mingo and married a woman of the tribe. Following a prevailing Native American practice, the young man who would become Logan the Mingo took the name "James Logan" out of admiration for his father's friend.[4]. My mother was a Spicer, and I am only now learning the long history of her family. He died in an altercation near Lake Erie in 1780. That is SUPER interesting, I've never heard of the Logan Family before. ET. The purpose of the conference was to encourage and invest in pastors and church leaders. In 1929, days prior to Christmas, Lawson (age 43) took Fannie (his wife age 37) and their seven children, Arthur (age 19), Marie (age 16), Carrie (age 12), Maybell (age 7) James (age 4) Raymond, (age 2) and Mary Lou (age 4 months) into town to buy new clothes and to have a family portrait taken. Thank you Joshua, I sent my contact info to you per Gmail. The dark hole of Topix has quite a few opinions that it was Stout, framing Scott. He placed the bodies in the tobacco barn. For example, Scott's 14yo girlfriend, Paige Harshbarger, was sleeping over with him that night. I think the gray hair is a false memory, too. Joining together in a process of ethnogenesis, they became known as the Mingo tribe. I don't know what happened between them. My grandfather's name was Homer Spicer. It is Near Newell in Hancock County West Virginia. I too would love to obtain a copy of the family book! Because visitors began to pick at the raisins on the cake to take as souvenirs, it was placed in a covered glass cakeserver for many years. [citation needed] Arthur Lawson was killed in a 1945 motor accident (age 31), leaving a wife and four children. Logan the Orator was a Cayuga orator and war leader born of one of the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy. I have the original spicer lineage and history compiled from 1755 to current day. Ok. What did Stout think Stacy knew about the shootings? During the course of the last long and bloody war, Logan remained idle in his cabin, an advocate for peace. Three SUVs arrived, two driving ahead, one lagging behind. Many traveled back across the Allegheny Mountains. View of the historical marker looking south along state route 2. The party under Taylaynee behest crossed the river to visit the cabin of Joshua Baker, a settler and rum trader. My takeaway is that Stacy is horribly traumatized and had nothing to do with it, and that Scott most likely did it. It was not until the book White Christmas, Bloody Christmas[5] was published in 1990 that a claim of Charlie sexually abusing Marie surfaced, beginning with an anonymous source who heard a rumor during a tour of the Lawson home shortly after the murders. Colombia wants to deport "cocaine hippos" to stop them from multiplying Just "gray hair." [7] John Logan's sister was known as the widow of Cajadies who was known as "the best hunter among all of the Indians" who died in November 1747. #inline-recirc-item--id-d445f4ac-8c88-11e2-b06b-024c619f5c3d, #right-rail-recirc-item--id-d445f4ac-8c88-11e2-b06b-024c619f5c3d { The last were names Lyman and Jesse. An Ohio man accused along with his family members of the 2016 massacre of another family was found guilty of multiple murder charges Wednesday.. A jury convicted George Wagner IV in the murders of . He says: Last Friday was two weeks ago (October 21), Logan, a famous chief went home with a little boy, a son of Roberts on Holston, and two of Blackmore's Negroes. Matewan, WV 25678. Maybe she wasn't home very often? Spicer had heard of the Mingo Chief, Logan, being on the warpath and was planning on fleeing to the local Fort the next day after they secured clothing and supplies. I'm wondering about the location of her grave. On June 10, realizing that the local situation was well beyond his ability to influence, McKee wrote to Johnson and advised the superintendent that only the reimposition of imperial or Pennsylvanian control could halt the violence. Grabbing the infant from her cradleboard, he took hold of its ankles and was about to dash its brains out when one of his companions intervened to save the child's life. As the contest began, one of the Indians, John Petty, who was somewhat intoxicated, wandered through the trading post. The old cellar of the Logan family home is all that may remain after the 1886 fire which consumed Anna Logan and four of her children. Logan's friendly relations with white settlers changed after the Yellow Creek Massacre of April 30, 1774. This comment has been removed by the author. Please contact me, omiakron@gmail.com . I would love to know if you have any information further back on the Bowen line. And the ex-wife, Nicole Gee, is standing by her former lover. Each Spring, thousands of wagon trains left for California, and the story of the Arkansas Emigrants and the Mountain Meadows Massacre, has incorrectly morphed into one large, all-inclusive, "Baker-Fancher" Train whose members all departed from Bellers Stand/Milum Springs, in Carroll County, Arkansas at the same time. Until now, authorities had said only that the Gees and their children Justina, 14-year-old Dillen Constant, 11-year-old Austin Gee and survivor Tabitha Gee were the victims of blunt force trauma and a violent struggle had taken place. As a boy I excelled at the Indian games of long ball and snow snake. Rebecca Jo Bowen(Becki). A female slave captured by Logan in the fall of 1774 noted that one of her captors was "a Large man much whiter than the rest and talked good English." Four months after the massacre at Yellow Creek, in August 1774, the family of Balser Lybrook was attacked by a small war party in a frantic, brutal raid. It's located about 5 miles N of Lexington, take Rt. The white People killed my kin at Coneestoga a great while ago, & I thought nothing of that. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She saw the killer, and he had grey hair. "[2] Logan the orator has been variously identified as Tah-gah-jute, Tachnechdorus (also spelled "Tachnedorus" and "Taghneghdoarus"), Soyechtowa, Tocanioadorogon, the "Great Mingo",[3] James Logan, and John Logan. He departed this world in 2005 in Milwaukee, WIThanks,Milwaukee, WI, The Spicer lineage is still fairly concentrated in the greene county area. Worried that their actions would prompt a retaliatory raid from the Yellow Creek Indians, Myers sent word to Greathouse and other neighbors within the vicinity to assemble at Baker's and prepare an ambush. My cousin said to google and that is how I came upon this conversation. They came upon a man and a small child floating in a dinghy. One of the families living near the fort was the family of Matthew Dean. He took revenge for family members killed by Virginian Long knives in 1774 in what is known as the Yellow Creek Massacre. Surprised I didnt know about this one. My grandfather Michael father Michael Bowen came form PA. Members of the Fundamentalist Mormon group were ambushed while driving in three vehicles, with authorities believing a drug cartel may be responsible.WATCH T. I'd be happy to hear from Joshua and heather if possible. She was able to turn her head a bit which is when she saw gray hair -- but that's it. Today, Nathaniel Tomlinson, Baker's brother-in-law, was more generous than usual with his liquor and eventually invited the Indians to take part in a shooting match. Once they passed into Ohio through Wheeling, the Spicer children were welcomed into the tribe and treated well. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. The Royal Governor of Virginia, Lord Dunmore, responded by launching an expedition against the Mingo and Shawnee, in the conflict known as Dunmore's War. On October 5, 1878, still in the midst of unpacking their belongings, the Dowdy family was going about their normal day. Possible connection between this story and this story, :http://www.wvgenweb.org/marshall/eric-crowfam.htm(Start at the line: "We now come to the well known story of the massacre of the three Crow girls")The two stories happened with in the vicinity of each other (this one in 1774 and the other in 1791 (17 years later)) is it possible that William Jr. (or a relative) Could be the Spicer mentioned in this story, No one seems to know the "Spicer"'s first name, though I admit at this point my research leaves something to be desired. One such attack was on a small farm in modern Greene County, Pennsylvania. It was there on April 30, in Logan's absence, that the infamous Yellow Creek Massacre occurred. To the best of my knowledge, he died in this reservation, and is buried near the grave of Chief Cornplanter. The bodies of the family members were found with their arms crossed and rocks under their heads. That is a horrible comment thread. She can't describe his face or his age or his clothing. Headstone inscription reads "Not now, but in the coming years, it will be a better land, We'll read the meaning of our tears and then sometime we'll understand.". Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The testimony from the domestic abuse counselor is pretty damning. [10] The American elm tree in Pickaway County, Ohio under which Logan was said to have given the speech became known as the Logan Elm. It worked. The bodies were found Sunday at a home in rural Ohio, 45. Curious to know whether he could be related to any of these "Spicers.". The site contains the remains of Malcolm and Anna Logan as well as their four children killed in the 1886 massacre. High around 60F. I am looking for information about John Spicer (born 1814, died 1882) from whom I am descended. I killed hundreds of elk, many bear and deer, and quite a few panthers, the last in 1860. When Betsy saw the woman in her mothers dress she assaulted her violently, tearing the clothes off the Mingo womans back. Missouri Humanities Council Archaeologist Erin Whitson shows area property owner Bill Buchanan some melted window glass and burned ceramics as possible evidence of the 1886 fire. After that, the remains of the city of Yangzhou were burned to the ground. https://www.amrevmuseum.org/collection/george-wilson-s-sword. Lawson shot Marie, and then found and killed the two boys. McKee assured his guests that the incident was the act of "a few rash and inconsiderate White People, and not by the intention or Knowledge of any of our Wise People"; he promised them that Dunmore, after he learned of the murders, would surely take every step to rectify the situation. Sheris father, Gary, owned and operated the farm, and Steves family have said Sheri felt her parents couldn't handle the work on the farm and were resisting her efforts to modernize it. Mostly sunny skies. Today, he agreed to change his plea to guilty - on the five year anniversary of the Rhoden family massacre, in order to take the death penalty for himself off the table. Such was my love for the whites, that my countrymen pointed as they passed, and said, Logan is the friend of the white men. LAPLACE - Ashen-faced and visibly shaken, St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff Wayne L. Jones stepped up to an array of microphones Thursday and announced the arrest of 35-year-old Garyville resident David Logan Roy in the slayings of his wife, Melissa, and the couple's three children - ages 9 years, 2 years and 10 months. And that's simply too terrifying for her to face. Sometime after that, Stacy awoke to a gun in her face. On a different note, it's mind bending to read about your home and places you've been to in this context. Logan's home lay opposite the site of Joshua Baker's Virginia homestead and trading post. A well-known orator, Logan advocated for peaceful relations with encroaching white settlers. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Contact me at omiakron@gmail.com. Logan and his hunting party were camped on the west bank of the Ohio at Yellow Creek, (near present day Steubenville, Ohio) and across the river from Bakers Bottom. The Mingo people laughed at the sight of the young girl attacking a grown woman and held the event as a great act of heroism. "[5] The Iroquois and other Native American tribes tended to have peace chiefs and war chiefs, or leaders. One incident that helped to support this treatment was when Betsy beheld one of the Mingo women wearing her mothers clothing. I grew up 30 minutes from there! After the murder of his family, though, Logan went on the warpath. The two nations listened to the message sent from McKee on May 5. The Dean family lived in the shadow of Lowry's Fort, which was erected in late 1778/early 1779. Audio of mother's 999 call after Logan Mwangi's disappearance. Kayashuta and White Mingo were the Mingo chiefs. It was the noise from their frightened pleas that alerted the Mingo warriors to their whereabouts. At least two canoes were dispatched from the Yellow Creek village to aid their members, but they were repelled by Greathouse's men concealed along the river. I just visited my father's grave at Good Hope Cemetary near Jane Lew, WV, and saw a marker for Elizabeth Spicer Bowen. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. If it was me, my response would be very different. During the four years he'd lived in the area, he had consistently tried to maintain peace. The really wild thing is that the accused tried to blame a local black man, but neither the sheriff nor the lynch mobs believed him. Hi Joshua, Nice meeting you. A Kentucky man told authorities that one of his sister's admirers had killed his entire family but that wasn't the full story. The one-hour special looks into the massacre that left nine American Mormon women and children dead just south of the US-Mexico border in November 2019. [6] Jettie died in early 1928, meaning Fannie had been suspicious of the incest at least that long before the murders in late 1929. According to investigators, on Sunday, May 29th 2005, the morning he was to graduate high school, Scott Moody walked across his familys failing dairy farm to his grandparents' farmhouse and shot them both dead with a .22-caliber rifle. Their fear was well founded. I think iam a Spicer descendant threw nona Spicer on my mother side born in west Virginia please contact me with furthet info at ptknight@live.com, Just discovered I am a direct descendant of Betsy, she was my 6th great grandmother on my mothers side.