Modak-Truran said that he regrets the tension the case has caused and that he feels badly for the Sharps. "Unruly and disruptive patrons" of the Fairview? No hard and fast answer, Belhaven. I have never eaten at the restaraunt there but have attended a few functions and it seems the parking for guests is relatively unobtrusive. Nestled in the Belhaven District of Jackson, Peter & Tamar Sharp invite you to experience Sophias Restaurant. From what I hear, the two complaining couples are practically alone in this - the Belhaven neighborhood Association supports the restaurant. It's just that when you look at the addition of a full-service restaurant serving alcohol in a residential neighborhoodthere are good reasons why if you were going to do that you'd have to be in a commercial zone or get a special use permit.". As far as I can see, there are good people on both sides, and ad hominem attacks are ridiculous. They purchased the inn knowing that there was litigation pending. I have nothing against the Sharps. Patio Dining, Fireplace, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Bar Seating, Smoking Area (patio), Brunch, Bar (Full), Private Rooms, Lounge, Smoking Area, Wine, Beer, Private Spaces. That is over the line, and the childish fingerpointing about stuff you've supposedly "seen" here is irrelevant. I don't think Jackson can afford this kind of NIMBYism. Opinion forums lead to passionate feelings. Chef Hawkins also features a daily three and four-course priced fixed menu available for dinner with or without wines. The future: We, of course, are always available to discuss solutions for the future and to see if there is a way to work out the issues. We had to pick many beer bottles up out of our yard when we lived over there after weddings and parties at the Fairview.

I'll tell you why if you respond to my inquiry. If QB had said "in my opinion, this looks like", would he have been in the right then?

Take your money, your passion, and your degree, and do something GOOD for our city! This is the kind of business that earns the City's last slogan of "Best of the New South." It's kinda basic." but let's look at who is playing both sides here. i sure hope they get to stick around. I personally believe that every side in the debate has the interests of the city at heart. q4launch fairview Share: We haven't been invited to participate in the process. (function(b,d,a,c){b.getElementById(d)||(c=b.getElementsByTagName(a)[0],a=b.createElement(a),a.type="text/javascript",a.async=!0,a.src="http://www.greaterjacksonpartnership.com/Content/Script/Ads.min.js",c.parentNode.insertBefore(a,c))})(document,"mni-ads-script","script"); 2599, I'll answer that. Meantime, this is where this argument ends. We assume no responsibility for any liability, loss or delay resulting from such use. It's fine to mention Simmons, but why not add more information about the Sharps, who are wonderful folks. No representation is made or warranty given as to their content, correctness, or usability. http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090903/NEWS/909030352/Court-ruling-may-close-restaurant The law does, however, and that's the issue here. The restaurant has attracted the ire of some neighbors since 2003, when then-owners Bill and Carol Simmons began marketing the bed-and-breakfast's restaurant to the general public. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); I guess this is where the argument comes from (with all due respect). yes, it brings a different crowd into the neighborhood, but so do weddings (where many have been drinking when they leave AND add to the traffic issues.) Class act.

Lovely stay at the Fairview. 125 S. Congress St. #1324 * Jackson, MS * 39201, Luckett, DuPree Push Education, Business Help. but couldn't they now push for the sharps, and put their muscle behind doing something positive for jackson? The courts should determine whether or not zoning exemptions are allowed, and give instructions on whether what is needed is a zoning change. Not sure on Barrett-Simon, yet. (*For those who don't recognize the NIMBY term, it stands for Not In My Back Yard, and is usually used in cases of well-to-do people not wanting social services in their communities because they don't want their property values to fall or be around "those" people. This is is a zoning issue. opinions, substantiated or not, are going to be shared, no? Kick back and view the menu online for this place. That's it exactly, GLewis. On the other hand, I also sympathize with the neighbors and can very well imagine times when having a commercial establishment across the street wouldn't be welcome. I disagree with you there. Actually, another poster made the statement and I was was trying to defend him. provisions If this was a case of spot-zoning, spot-zoning is too dangerous from a civil rights perspective because it would allow neighbors to define a business with black clientele as "disruptive" and a business with white clientele as not in a way that would lead to redlining. i'm no legal expert, but couldn't they have had this dropped, or pushed for jackson to create that special zoning. fairview inn into tuck hangout neighborhood lounge library Why does it matter who brought this up or why? This is a tough situation. The Fairview Inn has lost its fight to keep the zoning designation that allowed it to run its business in a residential Jackson neighborhood. I assume they're good people because I've only heard good things about them. fax: 601-510-9019 "Many of those people did not know it was the same Simmons who ran the Citizens Councils of America, which helped lead boycotts on any business that didn't go along with segregation. provisions ladd, you said that you no longer lived there so you couldn't speak of the current state of affairs, but i heard the number there saturday was over 300, and i was there toward the end. Perfect for bridal showers and elegant dinner, this room features crystal chandeliers, antique furnishings and versatile seating arrangements. My entire point here is that no one is to use this site to villianize either side. Instead, they are people who don't want to live across the street from a B&B , spa, event facility, and restaurant. i didn't see litter, illegally parked cars, or anything else that was out of the ordinary or disruptive. Thank you 2599. It's petty, and it's beneath most of you. (601) 948-1203 (fax) I know all too well how allegations can damage a life (or multiple lives). 734 Fairview St. User agreement and privacy statement. They responded like "wow"it's real. This building is filled with history, and it doesn't make sense to leave that history out of stories about it. fairview inn into tuck hangout neighborhood lounge library The Mississippi Supreme Court showed a rare bit of good sense by ruling the way it did.

And it's in a position to be a big disruption if the owners do not run it well (which it sounds like the current ones do).

QB, I got those documents last night but haven't had time to read them. See Euclid. they aren't asking that the zoning law be changed. var _mnisq=_mnisq||[]; It's not the CL boards, thank goodness, but nevertheless. Over the negative recommendation of the City of Jackson's Planning Board, the City Council of Jackson pushed forward on legislation that favored one business over all others. Because this issue seems to bring out the worst in many people, going forward, I will put you into "moderate" mode if you post a personal attack here, and I will delete any comments that contain personal attacks toward either side without further comment. You don't seem to understand the meaning of "trash talk" as I'm using it, and seem unwilling to examine why the statement I called out of yours is different from others here, including your other statements. It sounds like you're doing just that, Stuart. That way lies redlining. 734 Fairview St, Jackson, Mississippi, USA. i've seen worse assumptions made on this board. I don't see any VILLAINS here, I just see a very grave mistake made re: how the site was zoned and I hope it can be resolved fairly in some fashion that still allows the restaurant to stay open. They are very committed to the Jackson community, moving here from Florida to invest, literally, in Jackson. Beautiful Inn. Actually, I'm not saying one way or the other. and it's one the sharps are unfortunately having to fight for. ;-). 3. But that does not mean that *either side* should be demonized. Visit Website My point is not against the Sharps; it is saying to rally the community to lobby to get the laws more friendly to mixed-use zoning if that's what you want to see, rather than relying on special favors.

This is trash talk and unsubstantiated allegation, 2599: According to the reviewers' opinions, the decor can be described as beautiful. As someone who used to live across and just down the street from it, I was very relieved when it was sold. But I have a sneaking suspicion that a black-owned restaurant with a predominantly black, working-class clientele would not be allowed by the larger neighborhood community to operate in the same location as the Fairview Inn, and that's what's wrong with spot-zoning. It's a beautiful inn. site by ChamberMaster. ;-) This family (the Sharps) are class acts and run a fine establishment. Fairview is mentioned in the book as are several Jackson landmarks.I'm kinda an ambassador for Jackson now (always was though). It would be transparent to tell us that, if so, and you could still make your arguments. Ladd, QB (nor any of us here but you) are journalists. Then-Hinds County Circuit Judge Bobby Delaughter, who recently pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI as part of the Scruggs judicial bribery scandal, ruled against the neighbors in 2007. Out of line. I remember when the Simmonses lobbied for the restaurant, so many people turned out in their support for a special zoning exemption. Lunch: Monday - Friday: 11:00am - 2:00pmDinner: Tuesday - Saturday: 5:30pm - 9:30pmSunday Brunch: 11:00am - 2:00pmLibrary Lounge:Monday - Friday: 4:00PM - closingSaturday: 12noon-closing. At the time they did it, Simmons ran it, and I sure didn't feel he was owed any favors. ;-) Largest dining area with French windows, fireplace, Victorian fans and elegant setting. And QB, you're way over the line about the opposition to the restaurant. So let's be clear, the Modak-Trurans and the Bakers have no problems at all with the Bed and Breakfast and are not trying to put the Fairview Inn out of business. It must be blind. True on the wedding issues. It's not like some learned Judge simply reviewed the trial court transcript and decided to reverse and render the decision in favor of the plaintiffs. (The plaintiffs' [mis]characterization of the Fairview). You've clearly taken sides.

No problem with the Fairview Inn Bed and Breakfast. I know you've all heard about "The Help". Reminiscent of a French country bistro, the intimate dining All listings are informational only. I also like that it provides a nice restaurant venue in a residential area -- mixed use, if you will. this may, at the end of the day, simply be a legal issue. It is of a nature that fits in with the character of the surrounding area. One good thing about the neighbors' opposition: It forced the Simmonses to at least try to control what was going on better and understand that they couldn't just do anything they wanted. There are but a few homes on that street. In any case, it looks like Margaret Barrett-Simon will push to pass appropriate ordinances to allow the continued operation of the Fairview. The first created a new classification for a bed-and-breakfast with a public restaurant, and the second exempted the Fairview from applying for a special use permit. The Ledger and the local tablogs have little beyond personal attacks in their comments, so go there if that's what you're into. I also understand that the law is not on the side of the defendants and it should not be. When we shared that information then, it gave pause to many of the people who were trying to get them a special permit." (function(d, s, id) { That's not right. but as i have said before, this is being pursued by the trurans and could have been put to rest with a neighborhood agreement/proposition to change the zoning law (with the trurans advocating in that regard.) Their examples of that type of behavior are directly related to the plaintiffs' own attempts to shut down the allegedly "high density commercial uses." It was as the other media pointedly avoiding it from what I could tell. And we often wouldn't be able to park in front of our own house due to traffic there, and that was before the restaurant. Leave them the [emailprotected]*k alone, Truran, and stop playing all innocent in this. It's 100 +/- feet from North State not like in the middle of Belhaven. A restaurant at the Fairview Inn on Fairview Street could close to the public if a recent ruling by the Mississippi Supreme Court stands. A friend asked a few weeks ago if it was okay to put up the granddaughter of the Warner Brothers clan at the Fairview Inn, and I said absolutely. It's not a factory in the middle of Belhaven. That is probably still good advice today, no matter who owns the Fairview now. I'm in a the business of knowing the difference. Luxury rooms. They started being more neighborly after that. We have a nice little house in Madison- the only thing that is wrong with it is that you have to drive to dine out, drive to go to the store or pharmacy, even have to drive somewhere else if you want to take a walk- no sidewalks and no enforced leash laws Jackson Free Press, Inc. "Unfortunately they didn't create this situation," Modak-Truran said. Those of us who "know" the Sharps are passionate about protecting their interests and what they contribute to the city. Sadly, I don't think this issue is really about NIMBYism*; I think it's pretty straightforward a law problem. But no one's saying the Trurans did anything criminal here. This bar offers perfectly cooked prawns, steaks and fish listed on the menu. How do you sustain a wait staff and a kitchen staff on that type of revenue?". Instead of it being "Fairview Inn", the Welcome Sign would read, "Welcome to the INNS of Fairview." If you're going to argue that it needs a zoning exemption, do that based on a real argument -- not a fake one that it's not somehow a huge part of a residential neighborhood. In the meantime, Sophia's Restaurant at the Inn will remain "in full operation," Sharp said. "My point is not against the Sharps; it is saying to rally the community to lobby to get the laws more friendly to mixed-use zoning if that's what you want to see, rather than relying on special favors. phone: 601-362-6121 (ext 11 sales, ext 16 editorial, ext 17 publisher) As for "feet from" North State Street, recall that the Fairview Inn and its environs take up most of that block.

I mean what is the big deal. _mnisq.push(["domain","www.greaterjacksonpartnership.com"],["context",299],["member",3618],["max",5],["rotate",1],["maxWidth",480],["maxHeight",60],["create","mn-banner"]); So I'm pretty much where I was then: There are two sides to this, and there is probably a compromise to be found. The Plaintiffs in this case aren't some crusaders of justice who will file suit to enforce zoning laws and prohibit spot zoning. Ironically, the spot zoning "precedence" (I'm sure you mean precedent) would only hurt plans to offer mixed use neighborhoods. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. On Thursday, the high court ruled 6-3 that a 2004 city zoning amendment allowing a public restaurant at the inn constituted "spot zoning" and was thus illegal. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); I see no reason to assume that the neighbors have evil intent or are lying. Donna writes: Just thinking. Wonderful. My impression has been that the Sharps are more attuned to the needs of the n'hood than were the Simmonses when they ran it; they came across as annoyed that the neighbors would dare challenge what they were doing. They picked the easiest target - the restaurant - in an effort to shut the whole operation down. PartyCache and PartyBook are trademarks of ForTheFairest,LLC.

Point of inquiry, Donna: are you claiming that supporters of the Fairview actually contacted you personally, told you that you were the first person to tell them about Bill Simmons' political past, and that those people then were conflicted over your information? That's about all there is to share about it. Damn neighbors with nothing better to do with their time and educations! What does that have to do with anything??? There aren't too many places in Jackson that have that same feature- I would think that it would be something that you would embrace. We are free to state our opinions (in my humble opinion) without the worry of journalistic bias being alleged. I was going to weigh in on this, but I would have taken two pages to get around to what you just said better anyway. They did inherit the problem--which seemed to come about in the first place from an innkeeper who was used to getting his way in Jackson. 4. btw, had lunch at sophia's today. Under the City of Jackson's zoning scheme, a full scale restaurant is allowed in a C3 district, but NOT in an R-2 district. event fairview jackson inn ms Many were respectful; others just ignored the signs that showed them where to park and such. QB, it sounds like Barrett-Simon has her head on straight and it trying to deal with this without demonizing the neighbors of the business. I doubt the compromise involves a special exemption. var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; Ms. Barrett-Simon never wanted our input, and refused to meet with us despite repeated attempts. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. why call him/her out? Attorneys have 10 days to ask the Supreme Court to reconsider. But that's not relevant, I guess. Updated Aug. 17 to correct the Fairview Inn's street. All who have addressed the problem understand it's legal ramifications; however, it is so unfortunate for the now owners who have spent so much time and money into making Fairview a class act. It is surrounded by residential on three sides, including the two longest sides. and you know there are many who would, even though it has NOTHING to do with the current issue.

js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; I know one of the plaintiff couples, and they are good people. Point taken. (601) 948-3429 Lots of problems with the manner in which the City of Jackson enacted the Fairview Inn Amendments. Adjacent to our library, this private room is perfect for business meetings and family celebrations. Reminiscent of a French country bistro, the intimate dining room has a romantic atmosphere, with a garden-like setting and its own private entrance on the west side of the Inn. ;-) And I know you understand the importance of history, considering what you do, and know that mentioning the history of a building and the person who created the issue in the first place is not a reflection on the current owners. t doesn't look to me that they feel too bad, though, or else they wouldn't continue to push this. That's what the Mississippi Court has held. It's not journalistic bias I'm concerned about; you're potentially committing libel by stating unsubstantiated facts about other people -- we're not talking about committing a criminal act. You can't do that without it being substantiated. It's a matter of opinion. I understand this. The city initially warned the couple that their restaurant violated the inn's zoning, but after meeting with the couple, city officials changed their tune and said that "social gatherings" could include a dinner reserved ahead of time. For me it doesn't matter what the plaintiffs' motives are and I certainly have nothing against the defendants; I ate at the Fairview for the first time Sunday for brunch. because it should. i hope you are implying the zoning change should should favor the sharps. Part of our user agreement, if you will note, is that we do not allow complaints about the moderation to derail conversations on another topic (such as this one about the Fairview). Imagine a combination of tasty meals and the knowledgeable staff, this is exactly what this spot provides you with. In sum, bloggers may not like our position, and that I can respect. They clearly did not feel so badly for the Sharps, as they forced them to spend thousands in legal fees for the trial and for the appeal. It has ended up where it would and should: In the courts to determine whether the zoning exemption was done properly in the first place, and what kind of precedence should be set. We journalists have to learn that quickly. I will say that I predicted then that this ruling might not stand. i just hate for some of our "backwards thinking" jacksonians tying that to the Sharps, present day. But this simply isn't a case of a liquor store being opened next to a school. "With 18 rooms, the average guests a night for dinner may be 8 or 10 people. "I feel bad for themthey inherited this." Truran says his concern centers around "serving alcohol in a residential neighborhood"? Four neighbors of the Inn, Anita and Mark Modak-Truran, and Daniel and Katherine Baker, then sued the city, arguing that the changes were "spot zoning" aimed at changing zoning rules for a single property, without regard to the surrounding community.