Intensive use in turn is made possible by another KNIPEX quality feature: The teeth are induction hardened, so that they can still grip firmly and securely even after long, intensive use like on the first day. While not thefastest Pliers Wrenchto adjust, the 5-inch model is the smallest, and its come in handy these past couple of weeks. Except one: the Cobras are pretty $$$, especially the larger sizes. How would you compare the two? I just saw that this duo is the deal of the day at KC Tool I have seen Groovelocks(and Bahcos) break, but so far never a Cobra. This has me curious as to whether the 6-inch (150 mm) size will be noticeably speedier. Your email address will not be published. A 45 angled mouthpiece turns a pipe wrench into a so-called corner pipe wrench. Im pretty sure the Knipex is higher quality and stronger steel, though I havent yet heard of anyone breaking a set of Groovelocks yet. And dont forget about that giveaway!
NSFW content will get you banned. Irwin productsare not. Whatever challenges you are facing with solutions from KNIPEX you will master them. I really like the pliers wrench. Both posts and the reader discussions will get you up to speed about the awesome and unique Pliers Wrench. The Knipex Cobra is similar to the Irwin Groovelock, but is a higher class of tool. Ive got these things, and they are so incredibly handy. I never checked. They may not be useful to you.). My Cobras are decent, but my 10-inch one is in storage since I also havesimilarly sized NWS pliers. The high-quality KNIPEX water pump pliers are characterised by the fact that their jaws are self-locking. The range of uses it has exceeds standard Leatherman pliers by far in my opinion. You know what that means. If nothing else, they are the beater version of the Cobras, good for keeping in the toolbox or on the toolbench if you keep your Knipex stuff for when its really needed or so your Cobras dont get borrowed and lost or ruined.
The Cobras is the a Mercedes. It may be cheaper that way.
The finer the adjustment of a pair of water pump pliers, the more precisely the pliers can be adapted to the size of the workpieces such as pipes. Do the Knipex Pliers Wrenches function as regular channel locks and they are just also designed to be actually used on nuts and bolts? Ive several knipex pliers, theyre all great. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Irwins have the wider, more comfortable handles that you have to upgrade to on the Knipex. The plies wrench is great but the cobras flex too much and are not as sturdy as Channel lock.
A 3pc set comes with 7, 10, and 12 tools, which are going to be most common. Last, but not least, Cobras are made by unionized workers under tolerable conditions, with an increasing effort to reduce pollution. I have both of them for the last 7 years. I start with one size and then buy more once I know the design/usefulness/quality is up to my needs or expectations. I have the black version in my tool bag and they are great for the work that I do.
Buy Now: 5 Pliers Wrench| 6 Pliers Wrench| 6 Pliers Wrench w/ MultiGrip, Buy Now(Mini Cobra Pliers via KC Tool) Cobras have been around forever it seems, and are a trusted, tried-and-true design around the world. The Cobras are also a little pricey, but less so than the Pliers Wrench. , , , , , , , . I don't know of a downside to the ES's. We welcome posts about "new tool day", estate sale/car boot sale finds, "what is this" tool, advice about the best tool for a job, homemade tools, 3D printed accessories, toolbox/shop tours. I would get pliers wrench in more an one size and would get Channel locks instead of Cobras. Whereas plain Knipex cobras would just be cause I need to get the Uber good upgrades lol. I did reviews on the 10" models of both the Pliers Wrench & Cobras. Do you like them? I EDC a pair of the 5 Pocket Wrench pliers . I probably would go with the 7" pliers wrench for automotive work also. I like to compare the knipex cobra to channel pliers and the pliers wrench to a traditional adjustable wrench. I had requested the 125 mm (5-inch) versions of the Knipex Pliers Wrench (86 03 125) and Cobra adjustable pliers (87 01 125), as I had heard that these sizes of pliers might beespecially pocketable. I got both pliers. One thing is for sure once you get them you will wish you had sooner.
I've never really run across anything at work I'd use T&G style pliers for that would need more leverage than they have. They are smaller than Channelock so sometimes they fit where channel locks do not. Ive got both. Questions? This significantly relieves the hand at work. Think hard and long about what you'll be using them for.
If you go on their page. You mean Knipex? For EDC it might be good to add one of the following: IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP 4-inch Locking Pliers, Curved Jaw with Wire Cutter, Irwin 08 Vise-Grip 4LW 4 Adjustable Locking Wrench with Wire Cutters, and IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP Locking Pliers, Long Nose, 4-Inch. Anyone who does not want to leave permanent traces on sensitive materials - for example by using water pump pliers - is well served with the siphon connector pliers. Entry period ends tonight, 6/26/2015! Because theyrerelabed under Craftsman branding. Still waiting for the order to ship but its worth the wait because of their pricing.
With its powerful transmission, the pliers wrench is also ideal for holding, pressing and bending.
Despite being small, the Cobras jawshave well-defined grooves. Once you get used to using them, they will be the first you reach for, hard to find anything wrong with them. Over at KC Tool, the 5-inch Pliers Wrench is$54 and change, and the 5-inch Cobras are about $36. The jaws are also not deep enough to keep up with how far they open, very noticeable when working on pipes. The Corbras are forged in whole pieces, the Groovelocks I have are not. Cant say nothing bad about them, great tools! I also have Pliers Wrenches in 7" & 10" and it would be tough for me to say which is the more useful. Groovelocks are a lot of pliers for a sale price of maybe $10, but are a new product that has already been re-designed at least once in just a few years. The Pliers Wrench grip is made with a smooth plastic material, the Cobra handle grip is made with a textured and slightly grippier material. The Groovelocks have actually been slightly redesigned again, most obviously they now have stamped sizes/model numbers on the head of the pliers, instead of printed ones, and more of a dull matte/flat black finish rather than the glossy black. The BAUER 8V Cordless, Im not sure these are the first modern folding knives they released. Ive been struggling to find decent EDC (everyday carry) pliers, and these looked to be perfect. You might shop around for price as Chads Toolbox and Crawford Tool sometimes have better prices on Knipex. Or maybe the Cobras are most popular? Once you use them, you won't want to touch a pair of conventional "Channellocks" again. Plus, its not easy for a lot of users to justify buying into a whole set of Knipex pliers all at once. I would love to complete the set with the pocket size 5. At max opening, the 5-inch Knipex Pliers Wrench has a measured capacity of around 0.935. Craftsman has been selling a 2-piece set of these pliersfor $50 (regularly priced) for the longest time. I have both of the smaller pliers bought the Micro Cobra in 2010 for $21 and the 125mm Plier Wrench last year for $48 no nice carrying pouch but theyre easy to slip into my pocket or belt and they are surprisingly useful. These pliers are also built for union fittings that electrical impluses go through (connector plug). I think that this 5-inch model, or maybe the 6-inch model if I spring for it, will replace the Stanley 6-inch MaxSteel adjustable wrench that Ive favored for many years now.
The Craftsman set I scored for $25 (50% off) a few years back, and Irwin 7 and 10 sets typically sell for $13 around holiday times.
You can often get them in a set depending the size you want. It enables different opening widths of the gripping jaw - and thus gripping workpieces of different diameters. I also have the Raptors and they also have been handy but I use them mostly for plumbing type fittings. I get that the most common sizes are what sells, but itd be nice to have the option, even if its a dream set that is more of a wishlist item for when you hit the lottery or casino jackpot or otherwise come into a lot of money. The Groovelocks are easily worth the price of admission to save the more expensive tool for when its really, really needed. The hose clamp or spring hose clamp pliers enable the gripping, holding and placing of spring band clamps on automotive hoses thanks to special gripping inserts in the functional jaws. We welcome visitors/DIYers asking questions about which tools to buy or use for a job. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Knipex Mini Pliers Wrench and Cobra Pliers are Perfect for EDC!
Glad to hear that you're looking to upgrade to Knipex! Ill probably end up buying at least 1 of each down the line but for the first pair, pliers wrench or cobra? My favorite is Cobolt cutters. You have finely spaced and shallow grooves at the top, coarse and angled teethon opposite sides of the groove, and another set of fine grooves near the pivot. Add 4 in 1 gearwrench (1/4, 5/16, 3/8, 7/16) , set of allen keys and a multitul on yourbelt, and you have everything you need to fix almost anything.
I have the 7", 10" & 12" plier wrenches. I have the 10" Plier Wrench and regret not getting a smaller size. http://homefixated.com/knipex-cobra-vs-irwin-groovelock-pliers-channellock-killers/. Snap-On, MAC, Matco all sell rebranded Cobras as their top line pliers. Ill stick with my mini made in USA Channelock brand version.
Looks like it might be the ultimate rusted bolt buster 12" for the Cobra's. Sometimes, when I am alone at home, Ill set out some tiny liquor bottles and those miniature Tabasco bottles that come in MREs, then I walk around with these pliers in hand and pretend Im a giant. They really are pocketable. (In other words: Yes, these things are small. They have a longer, narrower set of jaws, which seems to help me a lot when working on automotive stuff. If nothing else, I think Knipex should offer full sets of each type of their pliers, and maybe a full set of every type of pliers they make? The 10" stay in my work box (automotive). Ive seen a few places sell sets they put together, but usually the pricing isnt any different than if you bought them individualy, which is kind of the point to buying larger sets, getting more tools for less per piece. These two 5-inch pliers will definitely be added to my EDC rotation.
Lovem both. Love the cobra, I have 12, 10 & 7 and amazed on the griping power they have. This sub is for tool enthusiasts worldwide to talk about tools, professionals and hobbyists alike. So that you can securely grip rectangular objects. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I carry the 5 cobras in my bags along with a klein heavy duty 10/1 driver. Sections: EDC, Pocket, & Multitools, Pliers, Tool Reviews Tags: Knipex 86 03 125, Knipex 87 01 125More from: Knipex. I find them less fussy to get on a fastner. Everything I fully expected of these tools. Whatever size/handle you end up buying I think you will be happy. They're for flat objects like bolts and nuts and not much beyond that. How many users will want to spent a lot more on 5, 6, and 16 sizes? If theyre using the words EDC, and are using the words assisted to refer to the ball bearing pivot, that, I dont believe I have the patience to learn to use let alone need to buy yet another variation of, Some of the other Crescent knives from the last year or two are actually really excellent for the money. The opening width of the pipe wrench is set by turning the knurled screw. Once set correctly, the pressure on the upper pliers handle is sufficient to turn the workpiece powerfully. As much as I like German-made precision pliers for when I need them, I also like having much less expensive versions to do lesser jobs. Just keep in mind that the serrations might mar delicate materials. JavaScript is disabled. The Groovelocks are a good value for the price, but are not the same quality steel, or design. You must log in or register to reply here.
At max opening, the Cobra pliersspread to about 1.815 (measured with calipers). Irwin has had promos where you could get a free set of Groovelock pliers for trading in your old groove-joint pliers. According to Knipex, it can accommodate 7/8and 23 mm hex fasteners(across flats). Was hoping to come across detailed feedback on the Knipex's Raptor Pliers. I'd save the money and just go with the 10s. The mini-cobra is part of our pocket tool-kit at work. The Groovelocks is like a Toyota, it got everything you need at an affordable price. A word of warning the 5-inch Pliers Wrenchisa little pricey. Absolutely amazing cutting power for such short pliers. I think I really will check out the 6-inch Pliers Wrench as well to see ifI like that size better. That plays into howthe Pliers Wrench and Cobra pliers complement each other so well. I wish all of my cobras had that head profile, though. The head is also wider, as is the gripping surface, so the Knipex is better for getting into small spacers, but the Irwin is better for larger jobs. It replaces a whole set of wrenches with continuous gripping in the entire capacity range - metric and imperial! It would real interesting to see a side by side comparison showing these improvements and benefits when one buys this higher class tool (as a general example). In my opinion I would get the 10" ES Cobras.
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This makes them more appealing for users whoare already familiar withlarger sizes that they love using. Use them five days a week. Water pump pliers are well suited for gripping round and angular parts, even of larger diameters. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Just bought a second one for my father, this thing is insanely useful although I find it hard to explain. http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=groups&parentID=1298&groupID=1368, http://www.shopyourway.com/craftsman-2-pc-adjustable-pliers-set-7-in-10-in/291472. We, therefore, had to wait on some items from time to time particularly if we were ordering many multiples of the same tool. I use the 7" the most, but if I could only afford one, I'd probably go with the 10". Idefinitely recommend both models,and will leave it to you to determine which one is better suited for your needs. I do have the long nose Cobras however (10") and they are worthwhile in my opinion. Might actually do one of the staff kits thrown together on kctools.com. Tool Reviews, New Tool Previews, Best Tool Guides, Tool Deals, and More! Chads new website is much nicer but if they were able to add real-time information about in-stock quantities it would be even better. They're useful, but for the stuff I work with the most, they're a little bulky.
From the mini water pump pliers to the XL pliers wrench, we offer you a comprehensive range which also leaves nothing to be desired in terms of pipe wrenches and high-performance pipe wrenches. They play an important role in the area of sanitary installation, but are also used in many other jobs, such as ventilation. The Pliers Wrench is going to be the better choice for use on fasteners that will show or be reused, as they wont dig into or mar the surface. An intelligent mechanism automatically adjusts the opening width to the workpiece. I do have some old Channel lock brand and craftsman channel locks already, so Im leaning towards the pliers wrench as that would be like a new tool plus new Knipex channel locks all in one if I understand correctly. I certainly dont want to only have Knipex Cobras and then be stuck using them for some nasty job that I know is going to get them caked up with dirt, sand, rust, or dull the teeth, damage the handle, etc.
That and the tiny teeth just don't bite like big ol' arc joint pliers do, at least among the quality ones. In order to avoid slipping, the jaws are usually toothed.
I think Id pick up some ESD micro Wera drivers and some full size Wihas that Im missing! When twisting they flex quite a bit. Thats just how it is, and I think youll find that most if not all Pliers Wrench users feel the same way. Ive seen 3-packs and custom combo sets like youve mentioned seeing, but thats about it. Yeah thats what I was thinking. Pricey but worth it for me. So if I went pliers wrench over the cobra, would I be missing some function(s) that normal adjustable jaw pliers (cobra) do? The jaw capacity is really good for it's size, so the 10" PWs rarely have to come out. The mini Cobra pliers adjust as quickly as my larger versions, and feels great in-hand. Without having access to my 7-inch Pliers Wrench, Id have nothing to complain about. 9 times out of 10, it's the 7" PWs for me at work. Ive seen a few of the original Groovelocks still collecting dust on some hardware store shelves, they look pretty thin and wimpy, not hard to see why they redesigned them the first time.
Whydoes the larger Cobra pliers have black grips?
Maybe someone else may know of a problem. Theres, Showing as $17.98 on your lowes link now, I brought it when it first arrived at my store in Hampton and I love it.
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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have already started carrying the Cobras with me, and might swap in the Pliers Wrench depending onwhere Im going and what I plan on going. A quick and at the same time very convenient way of adjustment for water pump pliers to different workpieces is the adjustment by push button. Assuming you keep it 10 years, thats a penny per day. I bought them after seeing a rep STAND on the top handle only(gripping a 1OD black pipe) with NO slippage.
Hop into the giveaway post andenter to win. Buy Now(2pc Set w/ Pouch via KC Tool). I agree with you. Knipex vs NWS Pliers Which Brand Makes the Best Pliers?
Due to the stroke between the gripping jaws, the pliers wrench can be used to work with the ratchet principle.
The head is about the same size while the handle is longer and heavier. They're great for soft copper or aluminum bolts/nuts, tweaking or straightening sheet metal, holding or pinching things without scarring, and a multitude of other uses. Aside fromthe Pliers Wrench, Knipexs Cobra pliers are perhaps their next most popular style.
Cobras work better on round surfaces like a pipe. Or maybe even the full-size versions? Pliers Wrenchesare basically high leverage parallel jaw pliers that are extremelyversatile, and Cobra adjustable pliers have shaped and grooved jaws that can fit many different shapes and sizes of materials. The only issue Ive ever had is that it was always hard to discern what was in stock and in what quantities. Get the pliers wrench and then the Cobra later if you already have a pair of Channel Locks. Want something else from KC Tools catalog?
NSFW content will get you banned. Irwin productsare not. Whatever challenges you are facing with solutions from KNIPEX you will master them. I really like the pliers wrench. Both posts and the reader discussions will get you up to speed about the awesome and unique Pliers Wrench. The Knipex Cobra is similar to the Irwin Groovelock, but is a higher class of tool. Ive got these things, and they are so incredibly handy. I never checked. They may not be useful to you.). My Cobras are decent, but my 10-inch one is in storage since I also havesimilarly sized NWS pliers. The high-quality KNIPEX water pump pliers are characterised by the fact that their jaws are self-locking. The range of uses it has exceeds standard Leatherman pliers by far in my opinion. You know what that means. If nothing else, they are the beater version of the Cobras, good for keeping in the toolbox or on the toolbench if you keep your Knipex stuff for when its really needed or so your Cobras dont get borrowed and lost or ruined.
The Cobras is the a Mercedes. It may be cheaper that way.
The finer the adjustment of a pair of water pump pliers, the more precisely the pliers can be adapted to the size of the workpieces such as pipes. Do the Knipex Pliers Wrenches function as regular channel locks and they are just also designed to be actually used on nuts and bolts? Ive several knipex pliers, theyre all great. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Irwins have the wider, more comfortable handles that you have to upgrade to on the Knipex. The plies wrench is great but the cobras flex too much and are not as sturdy as Channel lock.
A 3pc set comes with 7, 10, and 12 tools, which are going to be most common. Last, but not least, Cobras are made by unionized workers under tolerable conditions, with an increasing effort to reduce pollution. I have both of them for the last 7 years. I start with one size and then buy more once I know the design/usefulness/quality is up to my needs or expectations. I have the black version in my tool bag and they are great for the work that I do.
Buy Now: 5 Pliers Wrench| 6 Pliers Wrench| 6 Pliers Wrench w/ MultiGrip, Buy Now(Mini Cobra Pliers via KC Tool) Cobras have been around forever it seems, and are a trusted, tried-and-true design around the world. The Cobras are also a little pricey, but less so than the Pliers Wrench. , , , , , , , . I don't know of a downside to the ES's. We welcome posts about "new tool day", estate sale/car boot sale finds, "what is this" tool, advice about the best tool for a job, homemade tools, 3D printed accessories, toolbox/shop tours. I would get pliers wrench in more an one size and would get Channel locks instead of Cobras. Whereas plain Knipex cobras would just be cause I need to get the Uber good upgrades lol. I did reviews on the 10" models of both the Pliers Wrench & Cobras. Do you like them? I EDC a pair of the 5 Pocket Wrench pliers . I probably would go with the 7" pliers wrench for automotive work also. I like to compare the knipex cobra to channel pliers and the pliers wrench to a traditional adjustable wrench. I had requested the 125 mm (5-inch) versions of the Knipex Pliers Wrench (86 03 125) and Cobra adjustable pliers (87 01 125), as I had heard that these sizes of pliers might beespecially pocketable. I got both pliers. One thing is for sure once you get them you will wish you had sooner.
I've never really run across anything at work I'd use T&G style pliers for that would need more leverage than they have. They are smaller than Channelock so sometimes they fit where channel locks do not. Ive got both. Questions? This significantly relieves the hand at work. Think hard and long about what you'll be using them for. If you go on their page. You mean Knipex? For EDC it might be good to add one of the following: IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP 4-inch Locking Pliers, Curved Jaw with Wire Cutter, Irwin 08 Vise-Grip 4LW 4 Adjustable Locking Wrench with Wire Cutters, and IRWIN Tools VISE-GRIP Locking Pliers, Long Nose, 4-Inch. Anyone who does not want to leave permanent traces on sensitive materials - for example by using water pump pliers - is well served with the siphon connector pliers. Entry period ends tonight, 6/26/2015! Because theyrerelabed under Craftsman branding. Still waiting for the order to ship but its worth the wait because of their pricing.
With its powerful transmission, the pliers wrench is also ideal for holding, pressing and bending.
Despite being small, the Cobras jawshave well-defined grooves. Once you get used to using them, they will be the first you reach for, hard to find anything wrong with them. Over at KC Tool, the 5-inch Pliers Wrench is$54 and change, and the 5-inch Cobras are about $36. The jaws are also not deep enough to keep up with how far they open, very noticeable when working on pipes. The Corbras are forged in whole pieces, the Groovelocks I have are not. Cant say nothing bad about them, great tools! I also have Pliers Wrenches in 7" & 10" and it would be tough for me to say which is the more useful. Groovelocks are a lot of pliers for a sale price of maybe $10, but are a new product that has already been re-designed at least once in just a few years. The Pliers Wrench grip is made with a smooth plastic material, the Cobra handle grip is made with a textured and slightly grippier material. The Groovelocks have actually been slightly redesigned again, most obviously they now have stamped sizes/model numbers on the head of the pliers, instead of printed ones, and more of a dull matte/flat black finish rather than the glossy black. The BAUER 8V Cordless, Im not sure these are the first modern folding knives they released. Ive been struggling to find decent EDC (everyday carry) pliers, and these looked to be perfect. You might shop around for price as Chads Toolbox and Crawford Tool sometimes have better prices on Knipex. Or maybe the Cobras are most popular? Once you use them, you won't want to touch a pair of conventional "Channellocks" again. Plus, its not easy for a lot of users to justify buying into a whole set of Knipex pliers all at once. I would love to complete the set with the pocket size 5. At max opening, the 5-inch Knipex Pliers Wrench has a measured capacity of around 0.935. Craftsman has been selling a 2-piece set of these pliersfor $50 (regularly priced) for the longest time. I have both of the smaller pliers bought the Micro Cobra in 2010 for $21 and the 125mm Plier Wrench last year for $48 no nice carrying pouch but theyre easy to slip into my pocket or belt and they are surprisingly useful. These pliers are also built for union fittings that electrical impluses go through (connector plug). I think that this 5-inch model, or maybe the 6-inch model if I spring for it, will replace the Stanley 6-inch MaxSteel adjustable wrench that Ive favored for many years now.
The Craftsman set I scored for $25 (50% off) a few years back, and Irwin 7 and 10 sets typically sell for $13 around holiday times.
You can often get them in a set depending the size you want. It enables different opening widths of the gripping jaw - and thus gripping workpieces of different diameters. I also have the Raptors and they also have been handy but I use them mostly for plumbing type fittings. I get that the most common sizes are what sells, but itd be nice to have the option, even if its a dream set that is more of a wishlist item for when you hit the lottery or casino jackpot or otherwise come into a lot of money. The Groovelocks are easily worth the price of admission to save the more expensive tool for when its really, really needed. The hose clamp or spring hose clamp pliers enable the gripping, holding and placing of spring band clamps on automotive hoses thanks to special gripping inserts in the functional jaws. We welcome visitors/DIYers asking questions about which tools to buy or use for a job. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Knipex Mini Pliers Wrench and Cobra Pliers are Perfect for EDC!
Glad to hear that you're looking to upgrade to Knipex! Ill probably end up buying at least 1 of each down the line but for the first pair, pliers wrench or cobra? My favorite is Cobolt cutters. You have finely spaced and shallow grooves at the top, coarse and angled teethon opposite sides of the groove, and another set of fine grooves near the pivot. Add 4 in 1 gearwrench (1/4, 5/16, 3/8, 7/16) , set of allen keys and a multitul on yourbelt, and you have everything you need to fix almost anything.
I have the 7", 10" & 12" plier wrenches. I have the 10" Plier Wrench and regret not getting a smaller size. http://homefixated.com/knipex-cobra-vs-irwin-groovelock-pliers-channellock-killers/. Snap-On, MAC, Matco all sell rebranded Cobras as their top line pliers. Ill stick with my mini made in USA Channelock brand version.
Looks like it might be the ultimate rusted bolt buster 12" for the Cobra's. Sometimes, when I am alone at home, Ill set out some tiny liquor bottles and those miniature Tabasco bottles that come in MREs, then I walk around with these pliers in hand and pretend Im a giant. They really are pocketable. (In other words: Yes, these things are small. They have a longer, narrower set of jaws, which seems to help me a lot when working on automotive stuff. If nothing else, I think Knipex should offer full sets of each type of their pliers, and maybe a full set of every type of pliers they make? The 10" stay in my work box (automotive). Ive seen a few places sell sets they put together, but usually the pricing isnt any different than if you bought them individualy, which is kind of the point to buying larger sets, getting more tools for less per piece. These two 5-inch pliers will definitely be added to my EDC rotation.
Lovem both. Love the cobra, I have 12, 10 & 7 and amazed on the griping power they have. This sub is for tool enthusiasts worldwide to talk about tools, professionals and hobbyists alike. So that you can securely grip rectangular objects. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I carry the 5 cobras in my bags along with a klein heavy duty 10/1 driver. Sections: EDC, Pocket, & Multitools, Pliers, Tool Reviews Tags: Knipex 86 03 125, Knipex 87 01 125More from: Knipex. I find them less fussy to get on a fastner. Everything I fully expected of these tools. Whatever size/handle you end up buying I think you will be happy. They're for flat objects like bolts and nuts and not much beyond that. How many users will want to spent a lot more on 5, 6, and 16 sizes? If theyre using the words EDC, and are using the words assisted to refer to the ball bearing pivot, that, I dont believe I have the patience to learn to use let alone need to buy yet another variation of, Some of the other Crescent knives from the last year or two are actually really excellent for the money. The opening width of the pipe wrench is set by turning the knurled screw. Once set correctly, the pressure on the upper pliers handle is sufficient to turn the workpiece powerfully. As much as I like German-made precision pliers for when I need them, I also like having much less expensive versions to do lesser jobs. Just keep in mind that the serrations might mar delicate materials. JavaScript is disabled. The Groovelocks are a good value for the price, but are not the same quality steel, or design. You must log in or register to reply here.
At max opening, the Cobra pliersspread to about 1.815 (measured with calipers). Irwin has had promos where you could get a free set of Groovelock pliers for trading in your old groove-joint pliers. According to Knipex, it can accommodate 7/8and 23 mm hex fasteners(across flats). Was hoping to come across detailed feedback on the Knipex's Raptor Pliers. I'd save the money and just go with the 10s. The mini-cobra is part of our pocket tool-kit at work. The Groovelocks is like a Toyota, it got everything you need at an affordable price. A word of warning the 5-inch Pliers Wrenchisa little pricey. Absolutely amazing cutting power for such short pliers. I think I really will check out the 6-inch Pliers Wrench as well to see ifI like that size better. That plays into howthe Pliers Wrench and Cobra pliers complement each other so well. I wish all of my cobras had that head profile, though. The head is also wider, as is the gripping surface, so the Knipex is better for getting into small spacers, but the Irwin is better for larger jobs. It replaces a whole set of wrenches with continuous gripping in the entire capacity range - metric and imperial! It would real interesting to see a side by side comparison showing these improvements and benefits when one buys this higher class tool (as a general example). In my opinion I would get the 10" ES Cobras.
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This makes them more appealing for users whoare already familiar withlarger sizes that they love using. Use them five days a week. Water pump pliers are well suited for gripping round and angular parts, even of larger diameters. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Just bought a second one for my father, this thing is insanely useful although I find it hard to explain. http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=groups&parentID=1298&groupID=1368, http://www.shopyourway.com/craftsman-2-pc-adjustable-pliers-set-7-in-10-in/291472. We, therefore, had to wait on some items from time to time particularly if we were ordering many multiples of the same tool. I use the 7" the most, but if I could only afford one, I'd probably go with the 10". Idefinitely recommend both models,and will leave it to you to determine which one is better suited for your needs. I do have the long nose Cobras however (10") and they are worthwhile in my opinion. Might actually do one of the staff kits thrown together on kctools.com. Tool Reviews, New Tool Previews, Best Tool Guides, Tool Deals, and More! Chads new website is much nicer but if they were able to add real-time information about in-stock quantities it would be even better. They're useful, but for the stuff I work with the most, they're a little bulky.
From the mini water pump pliers to the XL pliers wrench, we offer you a comprehensive range which also leaves nothing to be desired in terms of pipe wrenches and high-performance pipe wrenches. They play an important role in the area of sanitary installation, but are also used in many other jobs, such as ventilation. The Pliers Wrench is going to be the better choice for use on fasteners that will show or be reused, as they wont dig into or mar the surface. An intelligent mechanism automatically adjusts the opening width to the workpiece. I do have some old Channel lock brand and craftsman channel locks already, so Im leaning towards the pliers wrench as that would be like a new tool plus new Knipex channel locks all in one if I understand correctly. I certainly dont want to only have Knipex Cobras and then be stuck using them for some nasty job that I know is going to get them caked up with dirt, sand, rust, or dull the teeth, damage the handle, etc.
That and the tiny teeth just don't bite like big ol' arc joint pliers do, at least among the quality ones. In order to avoid slipping, the jaws are usually toothed.
I think Id pick up some ESD micro Wera drivers and some full size Wihas that Im missing! When twisting they flex quite a bit. Thats just how it is, and I think youll find that most if not all Pliers Wrench users feel the same way. Ive seen 3-packs and custom combo sets like youve mentioned seeing, but thats about it. Yeah thats what I was thinking. Pricey but worth it for me. So if I went pliers wrench over the cobra, would I be missing some function(s) that normal adjustable jaw pliers (cobra) do? The jaw capacity is really good for it's size, so the 10" PWs rarely have to come out. The mini Cobra pliers adjust as quickly as my larger versions, and feels great in-hand. Without having access to my 7-inch Pliers Wrench, Id have nothing to complain about. 9 times out of 10, it's the 7" PWs for me at work. Ive seen a few of the original Groovelocks still collecting dust on some hardware store shelves, they look pretty thin and wimpy, not hard to see why they redesigned them the first time.
Whydoes the larger Cobra pliers have black grips?
Maybe someone else may know of a problem. Theres, Showing as $17.98 on your lowes link now, I brought it when it first arrived at my store in Hampton and I love it.
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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have already started carrying the Cobras with me, and might swap in the Pliers Wrench depending onwhere Im going and what I plan on going. A quick and at the same time very convenient way of adjustment for water pump pliers to different workpieces is the adjustment by push button. Assuming you keep it 10 years, thats a penny per day. I bought them after seeing a rep STAND on the top handle only(gripping a 1OD black pipe) with NO slippage.
Hop into the giveaway post andenter to win. Buy Now(2pc Set w/ Pouch via KC Tool). I agree with you. Knipex vs NWS Pliers Which Brand Makes the Best Pliers?
Due to the stroke between the gripping jaws, the pliers wrench can be used to work with the ratchet principle.
The head is about the same size while the handle is longer and heavier. They're great for soft copper or aluminum bolts/nuts, tweaking or straightening sheet metal, holding or pinching things without scarring, and a multitude of other uses. Aside fromthe Pliers Wrench, Knipexs Cobra pliers are perhaps their next most popular style.
Cobras work better on round surfaces like a pipe. Or maybe even the full-size versions? Pliers Wrenchesare basically high leverage parallel jaw pliers that are extremelyversatile, and Cobra adjustable pliers have shaped and grooved jaws that can fit many different shapes and sizes of materials. The only issue Ive ever had is that it was always hard to discern what was in stock and in what quantities. Get the pliers wrench and then the Cobra later if you already have a pair of Channel Locks. Want something else from KC Tools catalog?