so---the pick will run between 2 ladders--and the 3rd ladder will be next to---or straddling the electric line( who wouldn't prefer fiberglass there?) I'm going to send it to you as a Shutterfly album.I think I've got those pics there and not on my hard drive.Once they're in a Shutterfly album I can't retrieve them to resize and post them here. Not exactly what the OP wanted, but I was recently at my parents' house and they needed a ladder, so I bought the Werner folding unit. It was stored indoors, so rot was not an issue. I could and have done things that are total no-no's to ask an employee to do. Pretty sure I saw the Werner name somewhere on the Sam's club ladders.JT. Wood ladders grip the sides of the houses much better for me and I can lean sideways (unless I'm leaned up against Tyvek) on them a lot farther than I can with fiberglass. I think just about all of us are guilty now and again of not working in total safety compliance at all times. ).What I read from you is generally evenhanded and sensible, and I am curious to know what set you off.Care to take another crack at my question? Its a good heavy ladder and we've beat it to death and it still is fine. 1 bid. the rails are VERY slippery---and will slide sideways along the gutter or fascia at light speed given the slightest chance. I agree that safety should be first priority on jobs at all times. Two 16 footers and two 24 footers. I work alone and no employees. give me an email sometime if ya want---- If we are compatible -------maybe we can pair up for a few things this spring . You kept espousing glass as superior to alum. LOL. I just hope your comp carrier doesn't appear on site unannounced to witness that debaucle. There as good as the rest and that's a great price. I did a few turrets in Bethlehem PA, and got pretty good with a slate cutter. Maybe I just need to learn who you can argue with and who you shouldn't. Yet in the same post you admit to using ladderjacks on 24', 32' and 40' ladders. you are not fishing in my pond are ya LOL. And each individual can decide if the experience shared---is relevant to the application being considered. Have also had good luck with the 18 foot Stanleys from Walmart. BTW, we tried to never lean againt the gutter for anything if at all possible.
aluminum extension ladder 2-20 ft sections 225 weight limit 36 ft usuable, Keller AK050 Extension Ladder Covers (Set of 2), Aluminum 28 ft. Extension Ladder by Keller ( Duty Rating 200 lbs.,type three ). The three rungs above is to provide a hand hold which this device does nicely.
Used wood years ago and can vouch for for their impact absorption ability ;o) - in '78 rode one down 2 stories to the sidewalk; went through 3 rungs before I got spit off. Yer a better man than me.View Image. and both of ouropportunities to do so are part of why we aren't punching a clock for someone else -----isn't it ? RE: UV rays------ a consideration with some SMALL basis in fact. walter------- i don't think I told nikkiwood to get another line of work, I think I suggested that ANYBODY who couldn't handle the negligible difference between aluminum and fiberglass ought to consider a nother line of work LOL, most people here have a decent sense of humor--- and I don't think that remark offended anybody, Personally--- I avoid table saws, routers, chainsaws, breakerboxes, gas lines--- really an endless list. i've always used Lynn and Werner ladders. ladder jacks.
ladder. I'm glad you enjoy my posts. As far as suppliers---too many to mention---but if you are anywhere near ohio---consider Ladders Unlimmited in cleveland----- I have bought from them several times and always been happy. No rot issues there, either. I needed extension ladders, but I do not use them every day, so I bought them instead of the super heavy duty redones. This item takes the place of three rungs and gives you open space to pass thru ,making it actually safer than stepping around the ladder in a conventional set up.
I need to replace a 16'er and need to buy a 32'er as my 24 often comes up short. I dunno I have both Werner 28 in FG and alum. Item: 123261210838 2) aluminum ladders are VERY slippery at the intersection of the side rails and house/gutter/fascia etc.-------- even if you are planning to tie the ladder off----- you still have to climb up it 1st. I would bet their #1 goal each and every day is not end up looking like chicken fried steak from contacting a 7200 volt load. A two man crew has different considerations than a big crew. The extension feet can be removed and used with fixed knuckles for a second stepladder (with the other unit) as scaffold support.In fact, I probably will get one of these, and ditch a couple of other ladders I have. Excellence is its own reward! I get to learn from the best of the best and your experience seemsto make you fit right in with that vein. Ladders Unlimmited up in cleveland will set ya up right with those ladders-------and might cut ya a deal if ya buy 'em all at once. and---no offense---but your rationale is like saying you prefer to work with dull saw blades because they they keep the probability of kickback in the front of your mind. Those were probably sourced from a commercial ladder supplier. I hate fiberglass ladders or stepladders. I'm reluctant because I know my personality would be to take more risks since I have FG.To be honest, we don't often run into overhead power in this area. I mentioned my bum Werner FG experience but I can't say that I've been dealing with ladders for 30 years either.I must admit that FG ladders seem to look more professional, at least in my opinion. A fiberglass ladder can twist just like an aluminum one if it falls just right. I'm not easily offended, but I am easily amused -- which was my reaction to your pretty much over-the-top response to my straightforward question (are FG and AL ladders with the same rating equal in strength, sturdiness, etc.? As long as they are type IA, brand should not be too big a consideration---------and if you buy all 4 at the same time from the same supplier you may swing a deal. Haz, we agree about one thing: I hate using the pics too and prefer to set up multiple ladders to jump around on. - M.K. Another shop had plenty of wooden stepladders. I'm currently getting torn a new one in another thread right now, so it's nice to hear that someone appreciates what I've got to say. Not having the airbags would force me drive more carefully. I can tell you that the Keller is not made as well as the Werner. Bottom line is "accidents happen". Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.
I don't care to defend the gorilla ladder. Yeah, feel more confident on the high FG ext. The glass ladders are just too twisty for my tastes. View Image, where I work the electric comes to the house on overhead wires. the discusion---PRIMARILY was 16,24,28 and 32 ft.----who in their right mind is gonna NOT use a 24 ft.--- because YOU don't think the same material is safe over a 40 fter-------- so what---completely irrelevant---and in point of fact---not even under consideration. I think FG ladders look more professional than AL (I never see wood so that is a non-issue). There was about a $50 difference in the price of the 32' aluminum vs the 32' FG. It seems like the wind blows and you're straightening the ladder. is more slippery than glass anyway. "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts.". I needed to be close to the roof edge to install these items and didn't want the arms of the stabilizer impeding my being able to remove the three slates needed for the retrofit install for each guard. You can argue with whoever you want to. It's very versatile, light, fast and gets you up high enough for most single family work. to me---the value of this forum is to share relevant experience------ so that folks going into a similar situation can benefit. I wasn't doing gutter work but installing snow guards into a slate roof to keep avalanching snow and ice from hitting pedestrians or vehicles. If I know we will have work around the service drop then I prefer to call the power company and have them either protect or remove the conductors in question.A FG ladder is not 100% safe, it just elminates some of the risk. I've never heard that before, and that's why I'm asking. the aluminum ladders are horifically noisyclang,bang schmang EVERY time you go up or down, Every time you set up or break down for the day---every foot you drive home rattle bang on the top of the truck. This shows a job I worked on today installing snow guards. Next we are looking into little boxing gloves.
When a 40'er won't reach. it's time for me to go home and watch Sportscenter.
I use mostly Werner with some Louisville as well.I like the way the Werners ride on each other -the fly section over the base.I lile the dogging action better as well-the Louisvilles always seem to need some titrivation to work well.
My impression is that the FG will last longer - less racking or twisting or loosening rung joints. Regarding the walk through,OSHA regulations require 3 rungs above the wall, right? Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features. By subdividing this property, a family was able to build a smaller and more accessible cottage for aging in place. We installed a slew of them on two jobs recently, fortunately the ones for standing seam are easy, just two 3/16th allen screws to clamp on to the seams. LOL. Good luck getting the wheels back under ya. Thanks for the offer of the O'Douls my drink of choice.I'm having one now as I cook supper. Keller 32" aluminum extension ladder Type I Industrial Model 4032. for several reasons.Like Jon mentioned UV rays are harmful over time to glass.They also take more abuse from loading and unloading from your rack when used constantly as I do.You must use more care in handling them in this way. My only thoughts are geared to stability.
Be that as it may-------- I will cease "preaching", but I remain safe on a pick run between a 28 ft and a 32 ft. fiberglass ladders. This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. Ladder is in very good condition., Length: 32', Material: Aluminum, Brand: keller, Type: Extension Ladder I think "FG vs Alum" is the new "wormdrive vs sidewinder" . I want to go with fiberglass. Even to the most careful of us. Are they cumbersome to move around?
There is a reason they are cheap. And I should also throw away the guards on my saws because it will force me to be more careful in how I handle them. I don't think anyone should duplicate our "test" cuz we know how to land, if something should give way. Your other post about debate on the glass vs. alum. I can see you are fervent about your beliefs so I won't be bothered to try to sway your thinking-just a couple points to ponder. Always look at the inside corner that sits on the rack for damage before you use it. We also have a Keller 24' extension ladder that we bought at Sam's. I mentioned how I don't like them as they seem to need adjustment -- they swell and shrink with the weather and time.I am curious about the old wooden extension ladders. It is very light, quick and does fine for me. I got a smoking deal on them- 50% off, so I couldn't pass it up. I hate looking down and seeing that "bellying ladder thing'. I forget the name, but it's the one that has one pair of knuckles like a Little Giant but then extension legs instead of the folding legs.If I only had one ladder, I think this is what I'd get -- not too heavy, but the longer unit (there are two sizes) can extend up to about 16 feet (which is to say equivalent to about an 18-foot extension ladder). fiberglass breaks down with uv rays and mine usually ride around on top of the van for me usually working alone a big part of ladder safety is safely moving them ladders around. Its ok. You still have to worry about grounding yourself to the house, dirt or moisture on the ladder forming a ground path, or jumping between the hot and neutral. Keller 32" aluminum extension ladder Type I Industrial Model 4032. I'd hate to have to be stuck with a fly section from a 40' fg as achickenladder. Thanks to all for your opinions. Just idle curiosity because I've only seen a few wooden ladders in all my short career at this.As for myself, I will always buy fiberglass and high rated as well. THANKS for all the input. I don't trust wooden ladders anymore.Look at the weight rating on the ladder. But I don't think that disqualifies someone from pointing out a safety hazard or pointer. he was 240.. It's really a misconception that alum. Maybe if I go with alum nobody will steal them!! I think I want to buy four new ones. Unless of course you're harnessed in as well. OSHA demands fiberglass ladders last I knew, so that's what I try to stick to for future purchases. I've owned this ladder for about 20 years for residential use only. That is your key to what you will pay and what you are paying for. I'm inclined to say that AL will last longer than FG.I used to buy only FG extension ladders but I had some problems with a 24' Werner warping on me. Keller 32" aluminum extension ladder Type I Industrial Model 4032. If the sides are rough and fibers are flaking off, it is time for a new one. Are you sure about that? Take both for $125.
You are also right, I don't ever set up ladders near electrical components, so safety regarding that is never a concern. My favorite ladder is the 20' staightlegged wood 1A extension ladder. Sooner or later someone will take a short cut when you're not looking. Excellent points walter---well played indeed ! How does this fg breakdown show up? We have a wooden 12' and my partner keeps me from taking the saw to old rickety, so we still have that too. It's coming off an hour at a time on this freaking exercise bike though. While we're on the subject, I have a 36 footer (aluminum) that I bought several years agoon the advice of my roofer. You were harnessed, right? Espec. And cheaper. The main thing coming out of all of this is to use equipment that is safe and you feel comfortable with. Around here (Ohio) I see fiberglass on jobsites almost exclusively. LOL. I always used wooden ladders of which I still have. ALL the ratings are VASTLY under sized, even the 200lb rating on that crappy 70 dollar Stanley As far as power lines? Just my off the cuff appraisal. Whow..I never thought there would be so much lively discussion. Interestingthanks for your information. cmon jon--- I KNOW you are WAAAAYYYYY smarter than that. the number of ladders you possess and your longegevity here would not be of any concern of mine. I have a Werner 24' alum and love it. at all times which is just your opinion ,not fact. ;) And you had a ladder and jack every 8', right? I know Little Giant has 1AA ladders-and I have a Louisville 6' stepladder that is a 1AA. I know for a fact that I couldn't lift one! and------ now-adays I take a cordless saw up top when required--------- but for most of my career I was hauling a long extension cord up the ladder behind a circ. and [emailprotected]. They never feel quite as stable as the wood ladders. I'm sure the FD knows the answer, but it's really not relevant here. Go with Werner. sphere--------- the hook ladder is an intersting scenario----- you might have me there on a technicality---because my primaryhook ladder is ( slow drum roll please)---the dreaded aluminum ! you are of course, entitled to make your business and safety decisions for yourself.
15+ items sold. Its been pretty sturdy so far and light as well.We also have one Werner 24' aluminum ext. My point was that alum is more rugged and safer from purely a structural standpoint.Apparently you don't use them with a pick up 32' or so.When you look down and see the belly that develops in a 40' fiberglass type 1A at that level of service you just migh S--t yourself.It's really scary and I'd never use them for that again. Walter, I just want to make a point. As far as I know the junkyards don't pay money for scrap fiberglass! See More. I could go on and on and on and on and on ---------- but ----, I can depend on the fiberglass---- it flexes more like the the wood ladders I started out with---very comforting. I normally kept a 32' alumimnum ladder at home and used it once or twice a year. Given the quality of wood available, I suppose that a good quality tall wooden extension ladder is going to be pricey. Our 40'ALUM can be done alone by Dale, but I can't/won't try. Thus I work from a plank quite often. Maybe a local could just fabricate a spring for you.
And you think some of us are working unsafely! your objections might be real----- but in my opinion they are overwelmingly outweighed by fiberglass' positive attributes in this application. now---here----in most jurisdictions---- if we are siding a house it's required to have one permit for the siding---and to have a licensed electrician pull aSECOND permit . -- maybe this time without the vitriol? I like Lynn ladders. Thanks, I am doing all instructions they gave me at the ER..can't wait for that bill. However, it has served me well, as have the Louisville 16 footers and the 10 foot step ladders I've got. We use nuthing but alum on every job since I started w/ Grant over a yr ago. I'd love to see what ya have for braackets, mebbe I can whip em up here in the shop. Ok, so I get it that I was completely excluded from this conversation save for a passing remark about "chinese" junk gorilla ladders. The cross braces don't lock in place as well as the werner and the fiberglass is lighter and the rivets aren't as large or strong.We picked up a "gorilla" 8 footer to replace our old wobbling wooden one when it fell out on me one day on a quick trip to HD. Mike L. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. It only takes a momentary lapse of judgement for an accident occur. One other excellent looking item by http://www.stabiladder.comis a new and improved leg leveling device which doesn't require bolting to the leg but looks really rugged and strong. But I've also got no complaints with the 24' and 16' fiberglass 1A Werners I have either. two items made by http://www.ladderinnovations.com one a pass thru attachment to the top of the ladder that gives you something to hold on to as you get off the top-instead of having to step around it.Another is a clever dolly to use to carry ladders while on site. I would guess that there is not enough contact difference among the three. ones. pick onto this situation. 3 watchers, 0.3 new watchers per day, 10 days for sale on eBay. also 3 stepladders, cuprum, davidson,husky, all the ladders are either typeI or type IA and I would have no hesitation in recommending or useing ANY of 'em----with the exception of the type I Davidson 8 ft. step ladder which is a piece of junk---the feet have never set properly. I hope to be walking better tomorrow. ;) LOL.
just about the first thing I do every work day is set up an extension ladder-----you can be damn sure it's gonna be the BEST freaking extension ladder I can get my hands on. Actually, I think Keller is a sub-brand of werner. Does fiberglass burn or melt before aluminum gets too hot to use for escape? But I've got to get an aluminum too 'cause those fg can wear you out pretty quick when you have to continually move them around.