I realize that other brands have subcompacts on their 18v platform that mirror the m12 for size and weight, in which case it would make a lot of sense for someone to not even dabble in the 10.8v platform. Playing devils advocate here, are you realistically going to use the hammer function enough to justify the added weight? Im very tempted to get the drill. There are other minor differences, such as vent placement and the exact shape and feel of the speed selector.
I have the m18 surge and it will send a small screw all the way to China if you leave it on 3 (full power) and mash on the trigger. That new drill looks like it will have the same slightly annoying thing that the Makita subcompact has: the clutch ring will be tricky to turn because the section of the body with the LED will get in the way. Sound familiar? I'm in the market for a M12 fuel drill. This Milwaukee 1/2" hammer drill goes WAY beyond what I had hoped for. I miss that little m12 screwdriver. My ears and especially the children of my clients are better off for the lack of impact drivers. Your email address will not be published. Ive always thought the M12 were just pointless. One nice thing about the hard cases is that they can be secured with a cable or small padlock. I have the DCD985 hammer drill now used it on occasionbut I was curious willthe M12 Hammer be useful or not work the extra money (think it's only like $10-$20 more)? Apparently Bosch has made an 18V switchable impact for years. 4 amp hour) it will drill into and mostly through most materials. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best Selling in Cordless Drills. They probably will fit in the old case fine. With the new M12 Fuel drill and hammer drill, switching from adjustable torque screwdriving mode to full-power drilling or hammer drill mode requires a turn of the clutch dial. As an Amazon Associate, we may earn income when you click on an Amazon link. Im on the m18 platform, but most of the time I dont need to lug around all that power so, the m12 gets a lot of use. Example M18 Fuel Gen1 & Gen2 dont fit in each others case. The blow-molded cases offer no extra storage space and take up more room than needed but they do offer some protection. Now were seeing the third generation and theres a lot to talk about. Your link has been automatically embedded. Mounting 1900 boxes and such with tapcons. Agreed, been commenting about this for years. I have decided to invest in some M12 stuff, the list I have is M12 Fuel Screw driver, LED light, and Ratchet, but I am having a hard time decided which drill Hammer or no hammer?
Anyways, I anticipate the hammer drill function will bore a 3/8" hole in poured concrete basement walls like a hot poker through butter. On paper, Milwaukees newest M12 Fuel brushless drills are every bit as fast and powerful as the first generation models. Of course, my hole saw is VERY sharp.
document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); New Milwaukee M12 Fuel Brushless Hammer Drill vs. Home Depot and Acme Tool had crazy-good pricing on Special Buy M12 Fuel kits during the holiday season. Size and shape of the handle is an issue with these cordless drills that take a battery pack that puts cells inside the grip. Well, their factory specs arent very good. A 1.5Ah VS a 6Ah was approx 25% faster at full charge. The trigger control is delicate enough to not strip a brass screw head while the torque is enough to spin a 5" hole saw through 3/4" solid oak floor planking glued down to 3/4" plywood without bogging down. amzn_assoc_default_category = "All"; We welcome visitors/DIYers asking questions about which tools to buy or use for a job. Your email address will not be published. Glad to see companies making their 12V lines more compact. But you wont see anyone complaining about this new one being quite a bit shorter.
Who knows, they may even beat Milwaukee to a grinder? Just because its NiCad doesnt mean its weak the DeWalt 18V products are just about as powerful as their current 20V lineup. I like to not have to finesse the trigger so by changing the settings, you can give it full trigger and then just let off when youre done. With the batteries lined up, you can see that the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel brushless hammer drill has been completely redesigned. It took a moment for things to sink in. I expect to do some quick testing soon. Same with gen 1, 12v drills and hammer drills. So for those with old tools, even getting a pair of the new batteries will breathe new life into the old tools as well. this was a damn quick response. Craftsman also gave visual updates to its CMCD732 hammer drill and CMCH234 rotary []. It's awesome and is probably the most used power tool I own. Low speed is still 450 RPM, but high speed drops 150 RPM down to 1550 RPM. amzn_assoc_search_bar_position = "bottom"; Last-Gen M12 Fuel was about an inch too long. I have a lot of m12 stuff, but chose to go with bosch for my drill and impact.
The new electronic clutches do not work well, and I would even go so far as to say they dont work at all. Marketing strategy. Clearly there is a Mrs. BK as he knows how the game is played. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Li-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-w-Free-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2598-22-2457-20/305883849?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-303101201-_-305883849-_-N, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-W-Charger-Tool-Bag-2596-22/303688986. In this case, the latest and greatest might not be an automatic upgrade, depending on your preferences. Nah, just a GF, but since I mostly work on her house, she tolerates me and my tool obsession. Its shorter, a little in the back, and a lot in the front. quite similar to m18 drill. The new and previous tools all seem tohave the same power and speed, at least on paper. I also needed a small hammer drill to fly with. Why so few entries for this great giveaway? Actually, I wonder how this stacks up compared to the Bosch 12v hammer drill in size and weight. Damn, Milwaukee keeps hitting home runs and Im not even a fanboi of them. Press J to jump to the feed. If you are constantly throwing larger diameter bits in, Id go 18v. Very often I have one outlet available to me on a job site, plus it takes up less space in my trailer.
amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "search"; Original Fuel Drill/Driver, The Wait is Over New Milwaukee M12 Fuel Cordless Right Angle Impact Wrenches, New Milwaukee Cordless Power Tools for 2020 Pipeline Rundown 1. My drill was stolen but someone left the impact on a job so I still had that. I am also disappointed the combo kit does not come with 3.0/6.0 batteries, makes no sense. amzn_assoc_linkid = "690d3822ba26ba35be418a9852db408f"; On the clock, Kenny dives deep to discover the practical limits and comparative differences for all kinds of tools. But if you want or need the smaller tool, it might be worth considering stepping up to the updated model. You can post now and register later. I Wish! Off the clock, his faith and love for his family are his top priorities, and you'll typically find him in the kitchen, on his bike (he's an Ironman), or taking folks out for a day of fishing on Tampa Bay. The 3/8th inch impact wrench is currently $299 with a 2.0 and 4.0 battery and $229 for just 1 2.0 battery so getting a hammer drill and impact driver and 2 batteries with the 3/8in impact wrench for $307 after taxes was a no brainer. Gee no kit in a packout case? But I bought the impact driver, hammer drill set with the 4.0 and 2.0 battery. Lol. The 1st gen m12s were powerful for sure, but it was also bigger than some compact 18v stuff. When I know a project will require an impact i grab my m18 surge from the shop along with whatever supplies i need. The Bosch 10.8 / 12v is built the same way as M12 but the 3 cells in the grip are positioned 1 at the back, 2 at the front. A mini angle grinder would be nice on 12v. The other part was a brain glitch. The hammer drill is a bit hefty for a handy little drill but when paired with a nice battery (i.e. Could have used this today while trying to reach a fastener in my basement. Something went wrong. Otherwise a very powerful and capable hammer drill and serves its purpose very well. I think its mechanically do-able since Rockwell made a drill that does that. For me it was weight and size. This is one of the reasons likely they could shave off the length plus no more grinding sound when reaching the clutch setting. Normally this is true but Milwaukee gives the exact same length and weight specs on their website for the hammer and non-hammer versions. M12 are 1 front 2 back.
NSFW content will get you banned. Tool Reviews, New Tool Previews, Best Tool Guides, Tool Deals, and More! Thanks for helping us do what we love. Ill do the upgrade . Isnt the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel Brushless Hammer Drill also an electronics clutch now instead of traditional mechanical clutch of the first gen? These are powerful and have great batteries but you should measure the runout tolerances. I don't need a hammer drill and would probably never use that feature.
If it is, the first-gen drills are still available. Something like a Packout box or L-Boxx would be neat but they too would add to the cost and might not be everyones cup of tea. Milwaukee even sent me a hand selected one and guaranteed it was within factory specs. For super large diameter masonry or tasks requiring upwards of 2,000 RPM, it may be advisable to step up to 18 volt class. The part where I say hammer drills are shorter was a simple mistake/reversal.
Instead of capturing your belt between the hook and the tool as in the first model, the hook on the new one will hug your belt from both sides. I went through seven of these m12 hammer drills. Fortunately, the snow made for some hazardous roads or I likely would have driven to the store to buy it. With the tools flat on a table, you can see that theres a big difference in size. As big of a deal as theyre making about the compact size, Im inclined to believe the Milwaukee Tool published specs.maybe. I would be interested in the updated versions for the size. Pricing: $129 for the bare tool, $179 for the kit, $229 for the compact kit with impact driver. I find theyre more consistent and the immediate drill stop feature they have is a life sent especially on small electronics work where I use them. This sub is for tool enthusiasts worldwide to talk about tools, professionals and hobbyists alike.
Nice to sew they improved these. Get one. you will not regret it.Read full review. I plan on seeing if drill/driver test samples will be available for review, but this 1st-gen model will likely be donated by then. Interestingly there was absolutely no difference in speed on a 3 #14 screw into hard wood(after three rounds the screw sheared off) however there was a noticeable difference depending on what battery pack you were running. Paste as plain text instead, Get one. you will not regret it. Clear editor. Ive grown to dislike the size fo the gen 1 as I own and prefer my Bosch 12v tools. I bought the drill because it came in a kit over the holidays with a 3/8ths M12 ratchet for barely more than the ractchet ny itself. I'd go for the normal drill. jk.
I can see them selling kits with no case or bag at all to be able to set the price a bit lower. It's way heavier, so you get wrist/hand fatigue faster if you have to use a lot repetitiously. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Save on Cordless Drills, Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like. Next thing she's gonna want a diamond! And if you can't avoid, I would think the weight of the 985 would be a small cost of minimising the pain of masonry work with a regular drill. The comment form collects your name, email and content to allow us keep track of the comments placed on the website. Also of note is theyre still bundling the 2Ah and 4Ah batteries with the kits according to Acmes description, I was hoping to see the kits start coming with 3Ah and 6Ah, but I guess those batteries are still too new and expensive to include in the kits. Unlikely, I have not found any models that fit in another model case, with exception of latest M18 Fuel model and corresponding One Key. I use my m12 screwdriver everyday at work because most of what i do is light duty and I would break a lot more stuff or take longer switching to a manual screwdriver to finish if I only used my impact. Anybody have any insights into using like the 4-mode M18 impacts, if the two extra modes are useful for you and maybe what applications you use them for? The speed settings are great for small fasteners. The extra setting are useful for me since I use this set to work on cars due to their compact size. Just my two cents. There are some interesting items in it, but actual needs outpace the wants. I remodel kitchens and baths for a living. So for anyone that would like to buy: don't imagine that the product is 100% new with plastic folded like you buy in the official store. DR99 we're on the same page on that one, I was thinking of getting it because it was lighter so I can drill those smaller holes with more control. The first Gens are huge and heavy, far from compact. I'm confident you will be pleased with your purchase. I have documented this many times with videos and real world testing and every time the electronic clutch either overtightens or slips out, and the mechanical clutch does what its supposed to do, slips at the preset torque. It may take an extra 1 second to drive but for me, its worth the extra control in my wrist for keeping the driver square to the screw. Admittedly I havent tried them out much on wood, but in electronics assembly the lower end torque settings seem to be spot on. M18 Surge is phenomeninal, it beats M18 Fuel Gen on high with Surge only on medium. Hammer drills are often a little bit longer than drill/drivers. Conductor562 unfortunately you are too late I already made my purchase but I probably will not use it enough to warrant the extra weight (you know what that is?) Would love your thoughts, please comment. I have around 15 M12 tools and have just bought into Makitas CXT 12v line as I think they are the ones that are expanding their line the fastest at the moment and I feel they will continue to do so .
Old-style steel cases offered both protection and extra some extra storage space but added to the cost of the package. Not to mention they are generally a fair bit cheaper where I live. I just scored an old-gen Fuel impact in one of the half-size Packout cases for $99 from HD a couple weeks ago not sure if theyre still doing the deal, but Im actually really impressed with both the driver and the case (repurposed for some less-used plumbing tools), though I was hoping for a more significant weight reduction from the 18v version and Im still not sure I love the Hey look I have expensive tools, smash my Jeep window and take them please! bright red plastic cases for the Packout system, Looks like theyre still doing the deal for the old stuff, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-With-Free-PACKOUT-Case-2404-21P/301999123. With a combo driver it would get even less use, but be one less thing to think about. Arent hammer drills typically longer than those without the hammer mechanism? While in my local HD the other day I noticed they still had a couple of the 1st gen kits available for the $99 price. I think one could do about 85 percent of pro work and most DIY with a drill like this. I have yet to buy into the M12 lineup. I want a ring!!!! I recently received a new M12 Fuel brushless hammer drill (thank you Milwaukee! ", Well, yeah, probably. Gaining 50 in-lbs, the Milwaukee 3404 now has 400 in-lbs and exceeds what you can find on some compact 18V/20V Max drills. Ive owned Bosch 12V but sold them off to buy into Makita 18V. but I also am picking up the fuel screwdriver so the added weight shouldn't be an issue as I can just use the screwdriver where needed. Do you mean the Bosch GSB 120-LI? Andwe'll even send you our "Best Tools for Your Hard-earned Dollars" white paper! Is there any disadvantages in purchasing the M12 FUEL Hammer Drill over the normal FUEL drill? The extra speeds on the hex are nice except have 3 M18 4 speed drivers. i think that its worth having the function IF it doesn't add too much weight and length to the tool. Ill prob finally bite the bullet and get into the m12 lineup. I think Boschs design is more comfortable for smaller hands and is what I grab for screwdriving jobs, but my old brushed M12 has good power and hasnt bitched when Ive run down three 4ah packs without a break using it for power sanding. Buy Now(Drill/Driver Kit via Acme Tool) ;D. The big question is how do they compare in power to the 18 volt, as in why would someone get a 12 volt over an 18 volt, are you losing performance and power? I mostly use my Makita subcompact for driving so it would be great to have something small just for driving screws (I have a few other drills to use for drilling). On the plus side I used this as an excuse to get the M18 Fuel Combo. Instead of always kicking yourself down the road where you wish you just spent the extra 20 bucks for a compact hammer drill.
I have the m18 surge and it will send a small screw all the way to China if you leave it on 3 (full power) and mash on the trigger. That new drill looks like it will have the same slightly annoying thing that the Makita subcompact has: the clutch ring will be tricky to turn because the section of the body with the LED will get in the way. Sound familiar? I'm in the market for a M12 fuel drill. This Milwaukee 1/2" hammer drill goes WAY beyond what I had hoped for. I miss that little m12 screwdriver. My ears and especially the children of my clients are better off for the lack of impact drivers. Your email address will not be published. Ive always thought the M12 were just pointless. One nice thing about the hard cases is that they can be secured with a cable or small padlock. I have the DCD985 hammer drill now used it on occasionbut I was curious willthe M12 Hammer be useful or not work the extra money (think it's only like $10-$20 more)? Apparently Bosch has made an 18V switchable impact for years. 4 amp hour) it will drill into and mostly through most materials. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best Selling in Cordless Drills. They probably will fit in the old case fine. With the new M12 Fuel drill and hammer drill, switching from adjustable torque screwdriving mode to full-power drilling or hammer drill mode requires a turn of the clutch dial. As an Amazon Associate, we may earn income when you click on an Amazon link. Im on the m18 platform, but most of the time I dont need to lug around all that power so, the m12 gets a lot of use. Example M18 Fuel Gen1 & Gen2 dont fit in each others case. The blow-molded cases offer no extra storage space and take up more room than needed but they do offer some protection. Now were seeing the third generation and theres a lot to talk about. Your link has been automatically embedded. Mounting 1900 boxes and such with tapcons. Agreed, been commenting about this for years. I have decided to invest in some M12 stuff, the list I have is M12 Fuel Screw driver, LED light, and Ratchet, but I am having a hard time decided which drill Hammer or no hammer?
Anyways, I anticipate the hammer drill function will bore a 3/8" hole in poured concrete basement walls like a hot poker through butter. On paper, Milwaukees newest M12 Fuel brushless drills are every bit as fast and powerful as the first generation models. Of course, my hole saw is VERY sharp.
document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); New Milwaukee M12 Fuel Brushless Hammer Drill vs. Home Depot and Acme Tool had crazy-good pricing on Special Buy M12 Fuel kits during the holiday season. Size and shape of the handle is an issue with these cordless drills that take a battery pack that puts cells inside the grip. Well, their factory specs arent very good. A 1.5Ah VS a 6Ah was approx 25% faster at full charge. The trigger control is delicate enough to not strip a brass screw head while the torque is enough to spin a 5" hole saw through 3/4" solid oak floor planking glued down to 3/4" plywood without bogging down. amzn_assoc_default_category = "All"; We welcome visitors/DIYers asking questions about which tools to buy or use for a job. Your email address will not be published. Glad to see companies making their 12V lines more compact. But you wont see anyone complaining about this new one being quite a bit shorter.
Who knows, they may even beat Milwaukee to a grinder? Just because its NiCad doesnt mean its weak the DeWalt 18V products are just about as powerful as their current 20V lineup. I like to not have to finesse the trigger so by changing the settings, you can give it full trigger and then just let off when youre done. With the batteries lined up, you can see that the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel brushless hammer drill has been completely redesigned. It took a moment for things to sink in. I expect to do some quick testing soon. Same with gen 1, 12v drills and hammer drills. So for those with old tools, even getting a pair of the new batteries will breathe new life into the old tools as well. this was a damn quick response. Craftsman also gave visual updates to its CMCD732 hammer drill and CMCH234 rotary []. It's awesome and is probably the most used power tool I own. Low speed is still 450 RPM, but high speed drops 150 RPM down to 1550 RPM. amzn_assoc_search_bar_position = "bottom"; Last-Gen M12 Fuel was about an inch too long. I have a lot of m12 stuff, but chose to go with bosch for my drill and impact.
The new electronic clutches do not work well, and I would even go so far as to say they dont work at all. Marketing strategy. Clearly there is a Mrs. BK as he knows how the game is played. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Li-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-w-Free-M12-3-8-in-Ratchet-2598-22-2457-20/305883849?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-303101201-_-305883849-_-N, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-W-Charger-Tool-Bag-2596-22/303688986. In this case, the latest and greatest might not be an automatic upgrade, depending on your preferences. Nah, just a GF, but since I mostly work on her house, she tolerates me and my tool obsession. Its shorter, a little in the back, and a lot in the front. quite similar to m18 drill. The new and previous tools all seem tohave the same power and speed, at least on paper. I also needed a small hammer drill to fly with. Why so few entries for this great giveaway? Actually, I wonder how this stacks up compared to the Bosch 12v hammer drill in size and weight. Damn, Milwaukee keeps hitting home runs and Im not even a fanboi of them. Press J to jump to the feed. If you are constantly throwing larger diameter bits in, Id go 18v. Very often I have one outlet available to me on a job site, plus it takes up less space in my trailer.
amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "search"; Original Fuel Drill/Driver, The Wait is Over New Milwaukee M12 Fuel Cordless Right Angle Impact Wrenches, New Milwaukee Cordless Power Tools for 2020 Pipeline Rundown 1. My drill was stolen but someone left the impact on a job so I still had that. I am also disappointed the combo kit does not come with 3.0/6.0 batteries, makes no sense. amzn_assoc_linkid = "690d3822ba26ba35be418a9852db408f"; On the clock, Kenny dives deep to discover the practical limits and comparative differences for all kinds of tools. But if you want or need the smaller tool, it might be worth considering stepping up to the updated model. You can post now and register later. I Wish! Off the clock, his faith and love for his family are his top priorities, and you'll typically find him in the kitchen, on his bike (he's an Ironman), or taking folks out for a day of fishing on Tampa Bay. The 3/8th inch impact wrench is currently $299 with a 2.0 and 4.0 battery and $229 for just 1 2.0 battery so getting a hammer drill and impact driver and 2 batteries with the 3/8in impact wrench for $307 after taxes was a no brainer. Gee no kit in a packout case? But I bought the impact driver, hammer drill set with the 4.0 and 2.0 battery. Lol. The 1st gen m12s were powerful for sure, but it was also bigger than some compact 18v stuff. When I know a project will require an impact i grab my m18 surge from the shop along with whatever supplies i need. The Bosch 10.8 / 12v is built the same way as M12 but the 3 cells in the grip are positioned 1 at the back, 2 at the front. A mini angle grinder would be nice on 12v. The other part was a brain glitch. The hammer drill is a bit hefty for a handy little drill but when paired with a nice battery (i.e. Could have used this today while trying to reach a fastener in my basement. Something went wrong. Otherwise a very powerful and capable hammer drill and serves its purpose very well. I think its mechanically do-able since Rockwell made a drill that does that. For me it was weight and size. This is one of the reasons likely they could shave off the length plus no more grinding sound when reaching the clutch setting. Normally this is true but Milwaukee gives the exact same length and weight specs on their website for the hammer and non-hammer versions. M12 are 1 front 2 back.
NSFW content will get you banned. Tool Reviews, New Tool Previews, Best Tool Guides, Tool Deals, and More! Thanks for helping us do what we love. Ill do the upgrade . Isnt the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel Brushless Hammer Drill also an electronics clutch now instead of traditional mechanical clutch of the first gen? These are powerful and have great batteries but you should measure the runout tolerances. I don't need a hammer drill and would probably never use that feature.
If it is, the first-gen drills are still available. Something like a Packout box or L-Boxx would be neat but they too would add to the cost and might not be everyones cup of tea. Milwaukee even sent me a hand selected one and guaranteed it was within factory specs. For super large diameter masonry or tasks requiring upwards of 2,000 RPM, it may be advisable to step up to 18 volt class. The part where I say hammer drills are shorter was a simple mistake/reversal.
Instead of capturing your belt between the hook and the tool as in the first model, the hook on the new one will hug your belt from both sides. I went through seven of these m12 hammer drills. Fortunately, the snow made for some hazardous roads or I likely would have driven to the store to buy it. With the tools flat on a table, you can see that theres a big difference in size. As big of a deal as theyre making about the compact size, Im inclined to believe the Milwaukee Tool published specs.maybe. I would be interested in the updated versions for the size. Pricing: $129 for the bare tool, $179 for the kit, $229 for the compact kit with impact driver. I find theyre more consistent and the immediate drill stop feature they have is a life sent especially on small electronics work where I use them. This sub is for tool enthusiasts worldwide to talk about tools, professionals and hobbyists alike.
Nice to sew they improved these. Get one. you will not regret it.Read full review. I plan on seeing if drill/driver test samples will be available for review, but this 1st-gen model will likely be donated by then. Interestingly there was absolutely no difference in speed on a 3 #14 screw into hard wood(after three rounds the screw sheared off) however there was a noticeable difference depending on what battery pack you were running. Paste as plain text instead, Get one. you will not regret it. Clear editor. Ive grown to dislike the size fo the gen 1 as I own and prefer my Bosch 12v tools. I bought the drill because it came in a kit over the holidays with a 3/8ths M12 ratchet for barely more than the ractchet ny itself. I'd go for the normal drill. jk.
I can see them selling kits with no case or bag at all to be able to set the price a bit lower. It's way heavier, so you get wrist/hand fatigue faster if you have to use a lot repetitiously. Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Save on Cordless Drills, Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like. Next thing she's gonna want a diamond! And if you can't avoid, I would think the weight of the 985 would be a small cost of minimising the pain of masonry work with a regular drill. The comment form collects your name, email and content to allow us keep track of the comments placed on the website. Also of note is theyre still bundling the 2Ah and 4Ah batteries with the kits according to Acmes description, I was hoping to see the kits start coming with 3Ah and 6Ah, but I guess those batteries are still too new and expensive to include in the kits. Unlikely, I have not found any models that fit in another model case, with exception of latest M18 Fuel model and corresponding One Key. I use my m12 screwdriver everyday at work because most of what i do is light duty and I would break a lot more stuff or take longer switching to a manual screwdriver to finish if I only used my impact. Anybody have any insights into using like the 4-mode M18 impacts, if the two extra modes are useful for you and maybe what applications you use them for? The speed settings are great for small fasteners. The extra setting are useful for me since I use this set to work on cars due to their compact size. Just my two cents. There are some interesting items in it, but actual needs outpace the wants. I remodel kitchens and baths for a living. So for anyone that would like to buy: don't imagine that the product is 100% new with plastic folded like you buy in the official store. DR99 we're on the same page on that one, I was thinking of getting it because it was lighter so I can drill those smaller holes with more control. The first Gens are huge and heavy, far from compact. I'm confident you will be pleased with your purchase. I have documented this many times with videos and real world testing and every time the electronic clutch either overtightens or slips out, and the mechanical clutch does what its supposed to do, slips at the preset torque. It may take an extra 1 second to drive but for me, its worth the extra control in my wrist for keeping the driver square to the screw. Admittedly I havent tried them out much on wood, but in electronics assembly the lower end torque settings seem to be spot on. M18 Surge is phenomeninal, it beats M18 Fuel Gen on high with Surge only on medium. Hammer drills are often a little bit longer than drill/drivers. Conductor562 unfortunately you are too late I already made my purchase but I probably will not use it enough to warrant the extra weight (you know what that is?) Would love your thoughts, please comment. I have around 15 M12 tools and have just bought into Makitas CXT 12v line as I think they are the ones that are expanding their line the fastest at the moment and I feel they will continue to do so .
Old-style steel cases offered both protection and extra some extra storage space but added to the cost of the package. Not to mention they are generally a fair bit cheaper where I live. I just scored an old-gen Fuel impact in one of the half-size Packout cases for $99 from HD a couple weeks ago not sure if theyre still doing the deal, but Im actually really impressed with both the driver and the case (repurposed for some less-used plumbing tools), though I was hoping for a more significant weight reduction from the 18v version and Im still not sure I love the Hey look I have expensive tools, smash my Jeep window and take them please! bright red plastic cases for the Packout system, Looks like theyre still doing the deal for the old stuff, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-With-Free-PACKOUT-Case-2404-21P/301999123. With a combo driver it would get even less use, but be one less thing to think about. Arent hammer drills typically longer than those without the hammer mechanism? While in my local HD the other day I noticed they still had a couple of the 1st gen kits available for the $99 price. I think one could do about 85 percent of pro work and most DIY with a drill like this. I have yet to buy into the M12 lineup. I want a ring!!!! I recently received a new M12 Fuel brushless hammer drill (thank you Milwaukee! ", Well, yeah, probably. Gaining 50 in-lbs, the Milwaukee 3404 now has 400 in-lbs and exceeds what you can find on some compact 18V/20V Max drills. Ive owned Bosch 12V but sold them off to buy into Makita 18V. but I also am picking up the fuel screwdriver so the added weight shouldn't be an issue as I can just use the screwdriver where needed. Do you mean the Bosch GSB 120-LI? Andwe'll even send you our "Best Tools for Your Hard-earned Dollars" white paper! Is there any disadvantages in purchasing the M12 FUEL Hammer Drill over the normal FUEL drill? The extra speeds on the hex are nice except have 3 M18 4 speed drivers. i think that its worth having the function IF it doesn't add too much weight and length to the tool. Ill prob finally bite the bullet and get into the m12 lineup. I think Boschs design is more comfortable for smaller hands and is what I grab for screwdriving jobs, but my old brushed M12 has good power and hasnt bitched when Ive run down three 4ah packs without a break using it for power sanding. Buy Now(Drill/Driver Kit via Acme Tool) ;D. The big question is how do they compare in power to the 18 volt, as in why would someone get a 12 volt over an 18 volt, are you losing performance and power? I mostly use my Makita subcompact for driving so it would be great to have something small just for driving screws (I have a few other drills to use for drilling). On the plus side I used this as an excuse to get the M18 Fuel Combo. Instead of always kicking yourself down the road where you wish you just spent the extra 20 bucks for a compact hammer drill.